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For the abolition of work. Yes really, abolish work! Not "reform work" but the destruction of work as a separate field of human activity.

To save the world, we're going to have to stop working! — David Graeber

A strange delusion possesses the working classes of the nations where capitalist civilization holds its sway. ...the love of work... Instead of opposing this mental aberration, the priests, the economists, and the moralists have cast a sacred halo over work. — Paul Lafargue

In communist society, where nobody has one exclusive sphere of activity but each can become accomplished in any branch he wishes, society regulates the general production and thus makes it possible for me to do one thing today and another tomorrow, to hunt in the morning, fish in the afternoon, rear cattle in the evening, criticise after dinner, just as I have a mind, without ever becoming hunter, fisherman, herdsman or critic. — Karl Marx

In the glorification of 'work', in the unwearied talk of the 'blessing of work', I see the same covert idea as in the praise of useful impersonal actions: that of fear of everything individual. — Friedrich Nietzsche

If hard work were such a wonderful thing, surely the rich would have kept it all to themselves. — Lane Kirkland

The bottom line is simple: all of us deserve to make the most of our potential as we see fit, to be the masters of our own destinies. Being forced to sell these things away to survive is tragic and humiliating. We don’t have to live like this. ― CrimethInc

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[–] MudMan@fedia.io 42 points 3 days ago (2 children)

You can, in fact, ask that. It's just that you shouldn't have to because labor conditions should be regulated by law.

[–] Scubus@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 days ago

I asked that when I was being interviewed. I wasnt aware it was abnormal. My boss didnt make a big deal out of it either. I also asked what benefits the position came with. We negotiated on my pay on the spot, which is where i definitely got a bit uncomfortable.

[–] peto@lemm.ee 1 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Labour conditions shouldn't need regulation, we should just recognise another being's suffering.

Though if we are going to have governments, they might as well do something useful.

[–] MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

we should just recognise another being's suffering.

We do. It's just that those that revel in it get rewarded.

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

Don't be ridiculous. Some of them just see additional free time of the masses as bad for the health of their gold hoards. When people aren't working all the time, they have enough time to think about your gold hoard. /s

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 5 points 3 days ago

There is literally no other thing that needs regulation more. It's the entire reason contracts are a thing that exists. If anybody comes to you claiming they'll set your working conditions based on empathy, that's your cue to find a different job and a good union.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

Rape whistles shouldn't need to exist, either.

[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 21 points 3 days ago (2 children)

You US people should not normalize "sick days". They're unethical.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 24 points 3 days ago

Dutch people can take 729 sick days in a row, assuming they're actually sick, that is.

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 9 points 3 days ago

I'm with you, but it's already normalized and the laws aren't on our side (plus there's an entire party trying to further erode worker's rights).

[–] tektite@slrpnk.net 8 points 2 days ago

The owner of a company I worked for made it through interviews and the entire hiring process several times without telling people their hourly pay. I'd trained new employees who asked me how much they'd be making. When I mentioned it, the owner was like, "They never asked!" WHAT THE FUCK.

[–] ShareMySims@sh.itjust.works 17 points 3 days ago

Autism helps (I've done shit like that, especially when I was younger. If I need to know something, I ask ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 😂)

[–] li10@feddit.uk 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Depends how it was asked and general attitude imo.

If that’s one of your leading questions then that’s a massive red flag, and anyone saying otherwise is being obtuse.

If it’s one of a few questions they asked at the end then that’s fine.

[–] knatschus@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 3 days ago

You should lead with that question, but not to a potienal manager, instead ask it your politican since in most of the western the answer would be "all the days that you're sick"

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago

For my current job we had a "culture fit" interview where I basically just went out to lunch with my future coworkers. That's when I asked for the real truth about benefits, turnover, bullshit levels, promotions, and raises.

[–] olafurp@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

You shouldn't have to ask that, but you kinda have to if you don't want to end up having to come in with the flu.

[–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You can ask that, but I wouldn't if I actually wanted to be hired there.

[–] stabby_cicada@slrpnk.net 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If an employer looks down on you for asking about benefits you're legally entitled to, you're probably better off not working for them.

[–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

Yes, you are. However, good luck finding somewhere that isn't like this.