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My local grocery store has started stocking a "limited edition" apple pie ice cream (message me for the details, don't want to be shilling). It's one of my favorites -- not only does it have chunks of real apple and graham cracker crust, but the ice cream itself has a delicious apple flavor. The whole thing tastes like you took a slice of apple pie with vanilla ice cream and blended it chunky style.

I always figured there was some boring food-science reason you couldn't make a decent apple ice cream, but this shows it's perfectly possible. So why isn't it more common? Apple pie is one of the most popular deserts, and you find apple flavoring in plenty of drinks and candies. What gives?

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[–] beebarfbadger@lemmy.world 89 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Because it's too expensive to crunch up a whole iPhone just for one cone.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 2 months ago

This should be higher. Even broken iPhones from 3 years ago sell for tens or hundreds of euros.

[–] Allero 73 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Making ice cream with actual apples involved is a nightmare due to acidity influencing other ingredients. But making it apple-scented is trivial.

But you raised a very good question...

[–] Orbituary@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I feel like dehydrated apples might work.

[–] kryptonite@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The cream would rehydrate them.

[–] JadenSmith@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is why you dry the ice cream first.

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[–] JASN_DE@lemmy.world 52 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Are we talking Apple or apple pie? Because from your post I can't really tell.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What flavour is apple pie?

[–] 4th_Times_A_Charm@sopuli.xyz 42 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 29 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And brown sugar.

Gotta get those cinnamons-syrup-swirls, amirite?

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[–] Nemo@slrpnk.net 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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[–] Jordan117@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

This particular one is apple pie, but the ice cream itself (minus the pie crust chunks) would be great on its own.

[–] EmoDuck@sh.itjust.works 26 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (7 children)

I've recently had a similar discussion on why orange ice cream isn't that popular, but exists in form of water ice

Our conclusion was that acidic flavors, like orange and apple just aren't good combined with cream, instead being better served as a sorbet

[–] klemptor@startrek.website 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What about orange creamsicles?

That sort of goes along with his point. The orange part is separate from the cream part.

[–] Fish@midwest.social 5 points 2 months ago

Orange creamcicle flavored ice cream is pretty easy to find. But I think it's usually vanilla ice cream with layers of orange sherbet. Strawberries are acidic and strawberry ice cream is a popular flavor.

In my experience, apples just don't taste very good when frozen. Maybe that's why they don't sell frozen apples at most supermarkets?

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[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)

you'd end up with apple cider vinegar as your flavorant, and that doesn't play well with milk.

[–] ettyblatant@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

What, you don't like cold soured apple curd tart cream? It has nutmeg in it!

[–] janNatan@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Why isn't orange (the fruit) ice cream more popular? I don't mean sherbet, I mean ice cream. It can be bought in Florida, but I've never heard of it anywhere else.

[–] lando55@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I feel silly asking since you mentioned Florida, but do they use real oranges? Any time I've ever seen or tasted orange ice cream it was always that fake stuff.

[–] janNatan@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago

I do believe it's made with real orange, especially if you're get it from a street vendor near the beach. Been years since I had it.

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 18 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I've wondered about the same but with kiwi fruit it's delicious and refreshing yet you don't see any flavored drinks or ice cream with that flavor.

[–] cynar@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

I suspect it's related to the difficulty in processing. Kiwi fruit are quite small and non-trivial to extract the flesh from. This would make it more expensive to extract.

This is less of an issue now that a few decades back. However, most people are quite conservative on their juice choices. Low sales still mean higher cost, which reduces sales.

[–] inconel@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Kiwi and pineapples have enzyme to break proteins down, causing it taste better if they have contact to diary products long enough. Canned pineapples don't have this issue but I haven't seen canned kiwi, maybe that explains no kiwi ice cream

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[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Where do you live? Where I live (Austria), apple ice cream is maybe not 100% universally available at all ice cream vendors, but common enough that I have no problems getting it if I want to.

[–] Jordan117@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Southeastern US. This is my first time seeing apple-anything ice cream on the shelves, from major national brands at least.

[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 months ago

Hm. I rarely buy ice cream in stores so I am not sure whether there is apple ice cream in stores here, but at ice cream parlors it is definitely reasonably common here.

[–] robolemmy@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Cinnamon apple jelly should be more common too! (Not apple butter… fuck Apple butter).

Apple cinnamon all the things!

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[–] agent_nycto@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Corporate studies show that the most popular ice cream flavors are the flavors we've always made and new flavors are risky because we don't know how popular they will be and so we only do the same flavors so we're always right.

Same reason why you only get reboots and remakes, it's a safer bet for investment.

Because CaPiTaLiSm BrEeDs InNoVaTiOn~!

[–] potentiallynotfelix@lemdro.id 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

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[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Idk but grape icrecream is illegal

[–] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm not really into sweets, but one day i saw a bar of chocolate with grapes on it, and i was like: chocolate with pockets full of grapes? Ymmi. At home i unpacked it and stuffed it in my mouth.

I almost threw up because it wasn't grapes, it was grappa. Of course we can't have nice things, we have to waste grapes on rotten ugly juice.

[–] hydrospanner@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Chocolate with raisins is super common though...

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[–] BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Caramelized apple ice cream is amazing !

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[–] jecht360@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Forget apple, we need more banana/banana creme ice cream flavors.

[–] Deconceptualist@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago

Even better, bananas foster flavor

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[–] s_s@lemm.ee 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Apples turn brown when you freeze them.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

While that is the case, modern industrial ice cream rarely contains the actual fruit. Just take standard Neutro mix, regenerate it with water, not milk, and add some food coloring (a light green), an acidic component like citric acid, and "natural" "apple" flavor.

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[–] teft@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

It's a popular flavor in new england. Gifford's has apple pie seasonally at their ice cream stands. They also have pumpkin pie ice cream which is my favorite.

[–] therealjcdenton@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There is such a variety of apples it's hard to pick one apple flavor.

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[–] swordgeek@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 months ago

Little boutique place near us has an "Apple Cheddar Pie" ice cream in the fall. It's never quite as good as you expect. Gotta try it again this year, to see how they've changed it.

(On the other hand, their Lemon Curd Blueberry is one of the greatest things ever served in a cone in the history of humankind.)

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 7 points 1 month ago

Is it the one I saw at ALDI? (or possibly the same supplier)

It was pretty freaking good ngl

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

damn good question

[–] SlamWich@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

The ice cream joint neat my house makes a honey apple gelato that's pretty incredible, not sure why we don't see it around more

[–] Default_Defect@midwest.social 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Most apple flavored stuff sucks, except for apples.

[–] seaQueue@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Apple brandy would like a word. One of my favorite liquors, it's fantastic.

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (7 children)

I really wish I had one of those fancy ice cream makers like they have on cooking shows like Iron Chef because I would definitely see what happens if you tried to make apple ice cream. I don't know if I can get fancier than just basic ingredients with mine... Maybe if I made an apple compote? 🤔

I think it just works better making apple pie ala mode ice cream Cold Stone style with some vanilla ice cream, pie filling, graham cracker crust and caramel.

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[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 months ago

The same reason they took it back out of skittles and no one gets apple flavored suckers. It isn't up to snuff.

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