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The experiment involved participants utilizing specialized equipment including sensors and earbuds. On September 24, one participant sleeping at home induced lucid dreaming, a state in which you are aware that you are dreaming. It is apparently a trainable skill, although I have only ever personally experienced it a handful of times throughout my life.

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[–] oce@jlai.lu 27 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Researchers at a California-based sleep startup claim it's possible to communicate with others while dreaming.

Is there some published article in a respected peer reviewed scientific journal?
If not, this may as well be the typical startup "fake it until you make it (or disappear)".

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

the lucid dreaming communication experiment itself is decades old now, people in lucid dreams have communicated to conscious scientists by moving their eyes in patterns to communicate with sleep scientists talking to the dreamer or playing sounds for them while in a lucid dream state to indicate the dreamers' awareness and understanding of stimulus from the waking world.

The "first" they're talking about is an extension of that phenomen, which is cool in its own right.

heres a recent article about similar sleep studies:

https://www.science.org/content/article/scientists-entered-peoples-dreams-and-got-them-talking

[–] superkret@feddit.org 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)
[–] oce@jlai.lu 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Interesting, but I didn't see a relation with the start up. Are they not really the first then?

[–] superkret@feddit.org 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

No, the proof has been established for decades.

[–] astrsk@fedia.io 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] superkret@feddit.org 3 points 3 weeks ago

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/6877973/

This is the original study from 1983, where conscious eye movements during REM sleep were used to communicate to the researchers while sleeping.
Proving for the first time that communication during sleep is possible, 4 decades ago.

[–] tomcatt360@lemmy.zip 19 points 3 weeks ago

"I've been trying to reach you about your car's extended warranty."

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yikes

While no doubt fascinating, it is also a bit frightening. The idea of commercializing dreams sounds ripe for misuse and if we're being force-fed content even while we are sleeping, when will we ever be able to truly unplug and get any actual rest?

[–] grandel@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago

(A more) dystopian future in 3, 2..

[–] subignition@piefed.social 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

If it is really possible to reliably train oneself to lucid dream, that's probably as far as it should go... Beyond there lies madness

[–] shasta@lemm.ee 2 points 3 weeks ago
[–] LesserAbe@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

What do you think the business founder has in mind when they say this is revolutionary? Like what regular use could this be put to?

[–] rbn@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 weeks ago

Maybe more working hours for office workers. Everyone can do another 8 hours of lucid night shift.

[–] Num10ck@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

armies of half asleep prisoners, remote controlling robotic soldiers, thinking it a sweet video game.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago

Advertising to you in your dreams.

[–] andrewth09@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

"Timecards... Timecards... Remember to fill out your timecards"

[–] HeartyOfGlass@lemm.ee 4 points 3 weeks ago

Ideal: "Oh wow! I could hang out with friends in my dreams! Conversations on the moon!!"

Reality: "You’re late"

Bonus: "We don't have to pay them anything because they're not physically at work!"

[–] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Literally Hypnospace Outlaw.

Edit: Dreamsettler can't come soon enough.

[–] ghostface@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

We need a remake of dreamscape now

[–] laurelraven@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 weeks ago

Such an underrated movie

[–] ThePantser@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

You mean Nightmare on Elm Street

[–] hate2bme@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Pretty cool article. Thanks for sharing.

[–] grandel@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago

If this becomes reality we'll be learning lucid dreaming to avoid dream ads.

As if privacy wasn't already hard enough.

[–] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Visualize your dream
Record it in the present tense
Put it into a permanent form
If you persist in your efforts
You can achieve dream control

[–] Apytele@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It also helps to start doing reality checks while awake such that they become habitual enough to occur while dreaming. You want to specifically check things that tend to be vulnerable to dream logic like clocks or books because they'll often change if you look away and check / read them a second time.

[–] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Very true. However, my comment was from a song called Silent Lucidity.

Gorgeous song if you’ve never heard it. It’s all about lucid dreaming.