I've been curious about this, since the United States and South Korea are both still at war with North Korea and the latter is sending troops into Ukraine, doesn't that mean that it's an active combat zone for both of us? Seems like all the pretext you would need to move troops into the area.
this post was submitted on 21 Oct 2024
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OH SHIT UKRAINIAN K2s?!????? PLEASE YES PLEEEEEEASE
why does anyone in existence think that goose-stepping isn't the dumbest goofiest looking bullshit anyone's ever done? i say this in a world where dabbing and planking have been things
Basically because Prussia developed it as a way of keeping soldiers in rigidly drilled formation advancing in lines towards defensive positions with muskets, because before rifles were common in military advancing in a tightly coordinated firing line in the face defensive musket fire was a devastatingly effective tactic but which required a lot of training and discipline. The Prussian army became famously successful while using it and it became very in style. As rifles became more common on the battlefield and defensive fire became more accurate it became obsolete as a tactic but it stuck as a ceremonial "impressive" looking thing. Now that everyone who remembers it being a real effective combat tactic is long dead and it's just associated with Nazis and the Soviet Union... Well... It basically just summons images of authoritarian military parades and people who get hard for that kind of thing are still into it and everyone else thinks it's stupid as hell.
That said, formal marching is still very much a thing in most if not all militaries, and it does tend to focus on rigidity and body control and very purposeful movements. Marching without bending the knees is a semi easy way of simplifying it so that every soldier seems to be moving the same way, which is often the goal of the effect, otherwise you have to train the exact time and angle which people are bending their knees and correcting for people with different length legs.
Really great explanation! Thanks!
Ah Prussia, the root cause of so much military ridiculousness
Seoul will “respond with all measures available”.
Perhaps the law that forbids arms exports to warfighting countries could be re-examined? Wouldn't even need to toss the whole thing, a new law could probably be passed to create an exception.
I'm sure some of S Korea's gigantic reserves of 155mm would make a very significant difference.
Or, a few battalions of those shiny K2 Black Panthers, which Poland signed a deal an absolute shitload of a couple years back. This’d be outstanding battlefield testing for them, tbh.
SK has mostly kept from supplying Ukraine. Closest they have gotten is selling shells to the US to open up more US shells to go to Ukraine. I could see SK changing their stance about supplying Ukraine over this.
I would think that fewer DPRK soldiers on the Korean peninsula, and more or them defecting, captured, wounded, or killed in Ukraine would be good for South Korea.
I think DPRK's hope is that at least some soldiers and officers will return with some modern combat experience, something that their military organization is dreadfully lacking. It could end up being a bigger problem down the road for ROK even if they lose a few thousand bodies.
They can't really take them back they've seen the outside world.