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rumored to be in contention for a seat in a potential Harris cabinet
No, fuck that. Do not let this neocon anywhere near power, we saw what happened the last time a Cheney was in the cabinet. Use her for the campaign if you think it'll help but dump her ass as soon as we win. She has nearly no political capital, she even lost her primary and is out of the house, there's no reason to court her.
if the Democrats win, the aftermath of the election will bring forth a hoard of former Republicans with no home. do you want them courted by more right wing fascist fuckheads we know nothing about, or the right wing fascist fuckheads who, at least for now, decided full fasch was not their best option?
the Republican herd needs a soft landing to mitigate future issues. as bad as the Cheney's are, they still have cachet in some important conservative circles. in this fucked up moment, the price might be worth it.
Can we get at least four fucking years without neocons poisoning the administration??
Nope. Better start planning grassroots leftist initiatives for midterms if you want any hope for an actual progressive administration.
If they can get enough Republicans to jump to democrat, the Republican party will die and then in a couple election cycles the Democrats would fracture into two parties, one more liberal and the other more conservative. This is probably the best outcome in a 2 party system.
It's not the best outcome because if we let the Dems split, it'll be between fascists and neocons again, and we'll end up back where we started. Leftists need to start organizing now so that we can shift the Overton Window left, because if we wait for Dems to fracture the window will keep shifting right.
I initially agreed with that first post, but you make a lot of sense. If Republicans have nowhere to go after Trump loses, they're going to continue to be radicalized by more extremists in their party. We need to extend some sort of fig leaf, but it has to come with conditions. Like admitting that Trump lost the 2020 election, that would be a good start. And admitting that January 6th was a coup. If we just allow them to come back like nothing happened, they'll just do this shit again next election.
they still have cachet in some important conservative circles
What circles, people are acting like Liz Cheney was a big leader in conservatism like Romney or something but she couldn't even win a Senate race. She lost her last primary in a blowout this time around and won't even be returning to the house.
The only thing your average person knows her for is her last name and that has become associated with Iraq and war profiteering and tainted in the last decade. Yeah you may pick up a couple middle age bush Republicans in the suburbs but your alienating even more people who despise the Cheneys and everything they stand for. Tons of progressives and Arabs are already staying home this election because of Kamalas Gaza policy, bringing on the war criminals daughter would only make that worse.
Ideally they'd form a third party and split the conservative vote for the next forty years or so
No...throw those fuckers in the dumpster fire they created and make sure they're never in power again. We have to end the Republican party in the next 4 years, not fucking cuddle them.
They're really treating abortion rights like its marijuana and think that's going to be a win.