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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.

Police lie under oath, a lot

Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak

Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street

Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States

So you wanna be a cop?

When the police knock on your door

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[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 93 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

As Reason's Jacob Sullum reported, Reps. Tim Walberg (R‒Mich.) and Jamie Raskin (D‒Md.) reintroduced the FAIR Act in March. The legislation includes several major reforms to civil asset forfeiture at the federal level, including eliminating the equitable sharing fund.

"It makes me feel more resolved to get this legislation passed," Walberg told WCNC. "At least the thought can come in people's minds, they changed their approach, and they rushed it more quickly in order to get that $69,000. It really ended up hurting the victim."

The government's actions "really ended up hurting the victim." That really just about sums up this entire story, and civil forfeiture in general. It's mostly used to hurt people, not to seek justice.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 60 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The dude won a lottery for 70k in 2018 and they still said it was likely drug money. Thugs!

[–] ridethisbike@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

"just sprinkle some crack on it and let's call it a day"

[–] OrderedChaos@lemmy.world 46 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That money needs to come out of the police funds.

[–] thepianistfroggollum@lemmynsfw.com 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Union funds*

Start making the union pay for corruption and the issue will be solved over night

[–] OrderedChaos@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Even better. How about both.

[–] rifugee@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't understand how any reasonable judge could think that civil forfeiture does not violate the 4th amendment. I mean, keeping the government from just taking your shit is one of the primary reasons for the amendment, right?

[–] DougHolland@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Sorry to be so pessimistic, but the Bill of Rights is a work of fiction.

It's excellent fiction, and I love it, but any government employee is free to violate any of the rights we're told we have. When they do, they'll face consequences only very, very rarely, and only if you're willing and financially able to take it to court. Even then, you'll only 'win' if you luck into a sympathetic judge.

And whatever the verdict, when you needed your rights they weren't there.

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

And then the cops wonder why honest people would ever complain about civil forfeiture. The police are organized crime, never forget that.