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[–] BluesF@lemmy.world 36 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The next-generation tank will have stronger preemptive strike capabilities using an artificial intelligence-based fire control system

Well that's disturbing. I wonder what level of buzz word AI this is? Safe to assume computer vision is involved, target/threat identification... Does "preemptive strike" imply the fire control system is firing by itself? I know it's not the case but it's hilarious to imagine it's ChatGPT doing it.

[–] RobertoOberto@sh.itjust.works 15 points 5 days ago (1 children)

My heart smiles at the thought of the first crew to actually command this thing in a war zone pulling security on some unknown pile of rubble and being awoken at 0347 by their tank unexpectedly dumping its entire payload on an "enemy" that it hallucinated.

Granted, dumb privates do this too, but it's funnier to think about the tank doing it all by itself.

[–] bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

This could even be exploited by putting decoys in the landscape the AI recognizes as enemies.

[–] Comment105@lemm.ee 1 points 5 days ago

Very easily

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

No one here but us trees

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 17 points 6 days ago (1 children)

powered by hydrogen fuel cells

I don't think the logistics for hydrogen fuel cells will help in actual combat situations, though it's expected to enter operation in 2040 anyway.

autonomous driving and slave drones

Hopefully one that actually works. As for the drones, I guess for reconnaissance?

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You can load a truck with fuel cells to extend range beyond what the current infrastructure can handle.

It's more complicated with batteries that need to be charged. Sure, there's a grid in many places, but if combat capability depends on the grid, it'll get targetted. And even before that, capacity is a concern and if the grid can handle a tank battalion wanting to plug in every tank so they can be ready for whatever comes next ASAP.

Fuel cells mean they can set up behind the front lines and use power more predictably and refuel tanks quicker than gas.

[–] Comment105@lemm.ee 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I never really understood what fuel cells have to do with hydrogen, and why it's a more appealing form factor than removing a vehicle's gas tank and instead just putting in a manifold with room for a number of some standard of gas can with valves fitted. It's not an inherently "hydrogen" thing.

Besides, it's fully possible to set up a bunch of gas cans from a truck in the same way you could set up a bunch of hydrogen "fuel cells".

[–] Verat@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

By my understanding fuel cells are less about form factor, and more about directly converting the fuel into electricity across a membrane, like how batteries operate, so like a battery that takes in Hydrogen on one terminal and Oxygen on the other, being more efficient than burning it in an engine and trying to recapture some of that as electricity after thermal and friction losses have eaten into it.

So it is more a replacement for the engine than it is for the fuel tank. Wikipedia

I am waiting for the non-destructible forever Toyota tank. Just make sure insurgents dont get their hands on one.

[–] CptEnder@lemmy.world 36 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Holy fuck that's a sexy tank

[–] Glemek@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

It looks like a miniature

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 6 days ago

it looks like a bastard kid of PL01 and Abrams-X

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[–] Birch@sh.itjust.works 31 points 6 days ago

Can't wait to see what the N-Line will look like

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 13 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] Omgpwnies@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

The big players in military tech aren't just the likes of Raytheon and such, it's also companies like Hyundai, Samsung, Texas Instruments (a little obvious for those who know, but many people are surprised about that calculator company being at the heart of so much military technology). Power plants and transmissions for tanks and such are made by General Electric, Allison, Cummings, etc. General Motors has a military division for small tactical vehicles (think Humvee)

Hell, IBM supplied computers to the Nazi regime that were used to tabulate prisoners at the concentration camps and those machines were used to produce the serial numbers tattooed on them. Most semiconductor research breakthroughs came as a result of military funding.

[–] WhyFlip@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

That a few thousand dollar drone will obliterate.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

More like few hundred. Slap an old rpg on an fpv and there you go.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 20 points 6 days ago (2 children)

It's beautiful and I want one.

[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago

Maybe Pepsi will do a new challenge

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[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

My brain just doesn't want to accept the idea of a stealth tank. It kind of feels like building a stealth monster truck, or creating sugar free Pez. It's like being loud is part of what it's supposed to do.

[–] Davidchan@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 5 days ago

Not to fet credible, but from a treeline 2km away a properly disguised tank can be pretty stealthy. Same concept of stealth aircraft, yeah if its close you're gonna see it, but if passive and active sensors can pick it up till visual range, well mighty fine way to sneak a platoon of tanks into an otherwise 'observed' area while looking like little more than a couple of civilian vehicles or migrating animals to a radar, or dull spot to thermals.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

Capable of the highest next-generation turret toss!

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