this post was submitted on 04 Nov 2024
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Ye Power Trippin' Bastards

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This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.

Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.

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At some point I have to start wondering if Putin pays these sorts of people.

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[–] pelikan@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

On the one hand, a quick check of the author's posts shows that he is just an obvious pro-NATO shill and his question was in bad faith, so Dessalines did nothing wrong by kicking him out.

On the other hand, this thread could have led to an insightful discussion that would have been interesting to read, so it's a shame that it was removed.

In the very beginning, .ml had the unique vibe of a truly decentralized international community with thousands of people from all over the world with different worldviews, leading to fiery and thought-provoking discussions in threads. Unfortunately, it is now actively turning into a hexbear/grad style far-left echo chamber.

[–] drake@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

This may be a controversial opinion, but I think instances and communities should just ban people for acting in bad faith. There’s very little actual insightful discussion that you can have without someone trying to just win some unilateral debate with some really obnoxious comments. I hate seeing people arguing and being rude all over the place.

I try my best to be the change I want to see in the world, but it’s really tough sometimes to try and stay positive and constructive when you’re just enduring endless personal insults

[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 4 hours ago

I could see a strong argument for personal safety around such a question (potential for self-incrimination and going through windows) but bigotry is a head scratcher.

[–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 2 points 4 hours ago

To be fair, the first part of the sentence kinda sounds like an accusation against Russians. However, it isn't something i would consider worthy to be deleted.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 5 points 5 hours ago

I legit would not be surprised if Dessalines takes money from some unsavory people to operate .ml as a kind of information war training ground.

User donations are certainly not generating him any real cash flow.

[–] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 hours ago

I remember when the Ukraine war started and in the comments of one of the first reddit posts were full of Russian people saying how they hated it and they just wanted peace. Nowadays I can't remember the last time I saw someone who is Russian on reddit or Lemmy really.

[–] 7oo7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 22 hours ago

Tankies haven't learned that ignoring things to reduce visibility tend to be more effective censorship than creating a streisand effect.

That's how the west learnt to do deal with it. Manipulate it in the backend, not the front, and if caught, blame it on a bug.

[–] illi@lemm.ee 56 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I like it here on lemmy. But people like this being main devs leaves sour taste to it

[–] socsa@piefed.social 0 points 5 hours ago

It honestly makes me concerned about the broader security risks of using lemmy. There's a lot of opportunity for them to target users they don't like by serving them malicious content via lemmy.ml, and they have shown nothing to indicate that they are above this kind of thing imo.

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I think a lot of people are going to switch to piefed once that gets more fleshed out. It federates with all lemmy but has a different and more open dev team working on it. They already have a bunch of cool features lemmy is currently lacking.

[–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I think a lot of people are going to switch to piefed

The big problem is that it isn't really possible for instances to switch from Lemmy to PieFed, or any other ActivityPub software.

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Once a Piefed instance is mature enough, I could consider asking a few communities I mod if they would be okay to migrate to it.

!casualconversation@lemm.ee for instance doesn't really need to be able to edit past posts, and we already moved from LW to lemm.ee. Moving again to another instance wouldn't be that different.

[–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 3 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

That's a highly specific comm though and most instances/comms would not be okay losing the history. You also inevitably stunt growth and lose some users during such a migration. It would be much better if ActivityPub allowed an instance to change its underlying representation, while keeping all the users and post and data but unfortunately this is basically impossible.

[–] Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Piefed looks like an interesting project for sure. I don't know much about it though - are they getting close to feature parity with Lemmy?

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In many ways they already are ahead. The front end is a bit wonky though, and some of the foundational features are still catching up (it's fully functioning though).

For one thing, they have "categories" of communities, and for another I can block all users from any instance I choose - though there is really no easy way to accomplish that while still on Lemmy proper.

But like when you upvote something, later it remembers that but won't show you the color. The interface is really pretty though, and solves several of the issues I had with Lemmy, like another one is that you can turn on viewing or both the upvote and separate downvote counts, which for Lemmy iirc you can only see that for comments, but for posts that only shows on the mobile site yet not on the desktop for some reason.

The PieFed devs are super responsive, quite extraordinary so imho. It's like they care or something (uh... cause they do, ofc!:-).

So especially since Lemmy is not perfect either, check out both Mbin and PieFed and just see them in action without an account, just for the fun of it.:-)

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 11 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

There's no way Python and Flask are going to scale as well as Rust. It's going to require more hardware to run and be able to handle fewer users.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 hours ago

The DB is all that matters. Python can scale very well through parallelization. So long as one doesn't restrict themselves to one process, there's really little chokepoint.

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[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 68 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The thread the comment was in. Seemed like a very relevant question.

https://lemmy.world/post/21619412

Note that dessalines isn’t even a moderator of the community, but a lemmy.ml instance admin. Instance rule 1 is related to bigotry, so according to Lemmy dev dessalines, it’s bigoted to ask the russian population if they are oppressed or support their country invading ukraine.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 22 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

That's mod rule 1. Admin rule #1 is "Don't get visited by the KGB".

Maybe we shouldn't hang out on servers where Russia has jurisdiction.

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

Wait are you exaggerating/joking or is ML literally hosted in Russia?

[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 hours ago

The domain is registered in Mali, hence .ml. Not sure where Dessalines and Nutomic are from.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 50 points 1 day ago

Tankies gonna tank. Never question the orthodoxy in an echo bunker.

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