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[–] absolutefuckinidiot@lemmygrad.ml 24 points 3 months ago (7 children)

I've done what I feel is a pretty good job ignoring US election (canadian here), but the liberal head loss over this I sadly cannot ignore. Otherwise reasonable people acting as if the world has ended when this man has already been president ? Some of the same people who agreed with me that KKKamala is not in any capacity a "harm reduction" vote acting as if martial law has just been declared or some shit ? Maybe I'm just the disagreeable asshole but I just find this behavior sad.

Obviously fuck Trump should go without saying how pathetically shitty that dude is but I mean come on. Hundreds of thousands of Palestinians have been murdered and terminally wounded under the democrats, not trump. Roe v Wade was overturned under the democrats, not Trump. We have witnessed one of the most acute transfers of wealth to the ultra rich under the dems, not the republicans. The war in the Ukraine started and was goaded on under Biden's admin, not Trump.

I'm not trying to say in any sense that things will get a single iota better with republicans in office but I feel like I'm taking crazy pills seeing the reactions online and from people I would consider to be rational individuals. They might even be right that these things will get worse under another Trump admin more quickly or in different ways than if Kamala won, but still I find the reaction to it ridiculous.

Not that any american needs to or should care about my opinion considering I'm relatively removed from the situation but like, am I being unempathetic or unreasonable ?

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[–] ComradePupIvy@lemmygrad.ml 23 points 3 months ago (8 children)

Can someone explain to me why Libs, specifically libs who root for the blue team seem to have more hatred for people who did not vote or vote 3rd party than the Republican team who is supposed to be their opponent?

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[–] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 22 points 3 months ago (5 children)

This is from /r/neoliberal

cw: mention of suicide

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[–] DankZedong@lemmygrad.ml 22 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Honestly think Trump will win

[–] muad_dibber@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Looks that way, according to the current betting odds: https://www.realclearpolling.com/betting-odds/2024/president

It's gonna be super annoying to have to hear them whining for a month at leastiabout how the russians/greens/tankies caused this.

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[–] DankZedong@lemmygrad.ml 22 points 3 months ago (4 children)

So I just woke up and it seems Trump is winning right?

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[–] Yeat@hexbear.net 21 points 3 months ago

Pissed off my entire liberal family by telling them idc who wins lmao

[–] ahriboy@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 3 months ago

I'm waiting for Second Thought to cover the aftermath.

[–] StalinistSteve@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 3 months ago

This shit was so predictable lmao at least the victory lap will be less violent than the "stolen election" protests, America now has a more fitting face

[–] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 3 months ago

STOP THE COUNT!!

[–] darkcalling@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I'm glad Kamala lost but upset that Claudia didn't win.

Instead it's this orange guy who occasionally says something funny.

But at least I get to drink liberal genocide apologist tears, everyone be sure to drink plenty of genocide apologist tears and scold them for supporting a genocidal party and candidate that moved right and try to teach them something for once.

I really, really, really hope she wins every remaining state but Michigan and the Dems get to know for a fact that she probably lost over supporting a genocide but I think that may be overly optimistic as it looks like her path to victory is closed off in AZ and NV. I mean fuck with our luck she'll somehow win Michigan anyways and the message Dems will take is genocide is okay but PUTIN personally (with the help of re-animated Stalin) stole the election with Russian brainwashing and troll farms.

Ah well. This bodes badly for the US I think.

Also be sure to be there for the mental health of those vulnerable friends of yours who maybe are a bit liberal and take this hard, good opportunity after comforting them to maybe lead them out of the blue-anon propaganda.

[–] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (9 children)

This guy is on cable news talking about US election

His nameplate says "religious guru". All they are talking about muslims and khalistanis. Give me cultural revolution ASAP.

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[–] soumerd_retardataire@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

At first, i agreed with the explanations based on the lack of cohesion of the democratic party, and the influence of Palestine, on the votes :

With most votes counted, the 2024 election elected D.Trump with ~73M votes vs. ~68M for K.Harris, compared to 2020 when D.Trump was rejected despite having the same numbers(, 74.2M,) and J.Biden was elected with 81.3M votes.
Furthermore, D.Trump would have received less votes without influent people like Robert Kennedy Jr. on his side, who still received votes apparently.
However, third parties like the libertarian party or the Green party received much more votes in 2016 than in 2024(, and the republican&democratic parties much less). Having gained 1M votes at most wouldn't have that much of an impact.
(I've also sometimes heard(, mostly twitter, but here's msnbc,) that the 2.5M muslim-americans voted D.Trump in opposition but that's not supported(source), even if J.Stein should have obtained much more if these surveys were trustworthy).
While i can't deny the influence of many pro-Palestine actors, i can't really prove it by the numbers either, and some deny its importance. Also, the high voter turnout doesn't favor the alternative of a boycott.
I only took a superficial look, so i don't doubt that there're many americans here who could easily correct my mistakes if they want to

[–] multitotal@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 3 months ago (11 children)

People didn't feel like voting for Kamala, so instead of voting for Trump they stayed home.

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[–] ComradePupIvy@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I do not much care about election day, what I am interested in/worried about is fallout from the day after

[–] rainpizza@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I just wish Trump(or whoever gets elected) goes insane and sanctions every country on earth. That way we can finally stop seeing the USD being used to fund fascists and rightoids in Latin America.

[–] amemorablename@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 3 months ago (4 children)

You know, I was trying to figure out how I feel about the results because like, I knew no matter which it would be, it wasn't going to be a big difference to me (both genocidal imperialists, ya know). But like, I think what I figured out is I have some secondhand anxiety about it? Like I have some anxiety about how other people are going to react to it, because people have been hyped up to such a degree to believe it's a world-ending scenario.

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[–] lorty@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 3 months ago

Not only did this circus happen over the year, it will still continue for several days (weeks?) because counting takes forever.

[–] CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 3 months ago (7 children)
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[–] multitotal@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 3 months ago

who here comfortably smug?

[–] chesmotorcycle@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 3 months ago

Kamala is Hillary 2.0

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