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[–] Rooskie91@discuss.online 54 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Accelerationism is usually championed by people that have never experienced or are unfamiliar with the kinds of hardships it will precipitate.

The downfall of civilizations is rarely a good time.

[–] niemcycle@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Accelerationism doesn't even make sense at the moment, if a revolution breaks out, it will be a free-for-all, with different groups trying to claim all the power. And judging by the results of the election, the majority of Americans either fully support or are fine with fascists winning. The working class has to be educated, has to have their consciousness built up before a revolution can actually go communist, otherwise you just end up with populism and fascism. It's very shortsighted thinking.

[–] Comment105@lemm.ee 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They're absolute morons, honestly. They are completely oblivious to their lack of manpower.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What do you mean?

I have been assured by several liberals that this loss is entirely the fault of 15 million radical leftists in America that decided to let fascism happen.

[–] Comment105@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

And there we have the core of the delusion:

They did something that aligned with you, so now you think they're ride or die for the revolution just because they watched enough pro Gaza TikToks to convince them to sit out the election.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Don't really get this sarcasm thing, huh?

Or reality. If there were 15 million leftists in America you'd know.

I voted solid blue, btw, because actual leftists, and not the liberal's delusional versions of them, understand what's at stake, unlike the great mass of disinterested and disenfranchised voters liberalism itself creates.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 4 points 1 week ago

They think prepped for that day... rich did make them bunkers for something i guess I am still not sure how they are planning on exploiting us from within a bunker with federal government enforcing their will upon us

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago

Literally just fascists with a coat of red paint.

[–] BonerMan@ani.social 20 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Talkies are just Nazis painted red.

Thats what stalinism means basically.

[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 1 points 1 week ago

But nazi's flag is red. Coincidence? i think not.

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 0 points 1 week ago

Drake meme:

Stalinism

Marxism-Leninism

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If they are outside the US, actively in contest with it in some kind of zero-sum game, then I don’t have too much to say that’s upset with them.

If they are outside the US and angry about its imperialism, I think they have yet to learn that the US doesn’t have a monopoly on it, and some of the other brands are somehow even worse. But the temporary or permanent collapse of the US might still be a good thing for them, depending.

If they are in the US, and edgelording, then fuck ‘em. I don’t exactly wish on them what’s in store, but there is a certain grim anticipation, I guess, of the day they start to learn about the reality of what they’ve been talking about.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If they are in the US, and edgelording, then fuck ‘em. I don’t exactly wish on them what’s in store, but there is a certain grim anticipation, I guess, of the day they start to learn about the reality of what they’ve been talking about.

I think of it this way - I have sympathy for every innocent victim that fascism is about to claim, and I would oppose it even if it only hurt shitheads.

... but I have absolutely no sympathy for them. I oppose fascism's damage to the innocent because fascism is bad and innocents don't deserve it. I oppose fascism's damage to the useful idiots only because fascism is bad.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They're victims too. They had so much propaganda, and so much bad education, and so many legitimate grievances about a government that since the 1990s at least has mostly forgotten about them.

I try to be kind in my thinking. They might attack and someone might have to defend against them. They might get attacked by the same system they supported in the beginning. A lot of them are going to get hurt, some of them very badly. None of that is good, even a little bit. Some of it "has to happen" and some will just happen because it happens. But I don't hold any of it against them nearly as much as I do against the people at the top that engineered this whole thing on purpose, with full awareness.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 1 points 1 week ago

Well... if it makes you feel better, they'll get punished, too. I think most of those people are unknowingly living within a very cushy society which has been set up and maintained for them, which is nearing its end, to be replaced by one much more difficult and dangerous.

[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Ahh, ml account, likely a russian celebrating.

quick tip: if someone openly announce they're aligned to the left, high chance they're not.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

Could be Russian, doubtful to be a shill, though, at least not a government one.