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How long will it take for Reddit to die? 5 or more years? Maybe less? What do you guys think?

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[–] maxenmajs@lemmy.world 39 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Reddit won't die anytime soon. It will just become irrelevant to internet power users such as us. It would take an unfathomably massive fuck up to lose their critical mass of users.

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 9 points 2 weeks ago

I agree that Reddit will become irrelevant to internet power users. However, I disagree that it takes a massive fuckup to lose the critical mass of users.

A simple way to explain this is to imagine that everyone has an individual "I'm pissed and I leave" threshold; if a platform displeases a user more than that threshold, they leave.

For power users, this threshold is really low, so they ditch platforms like Reddit faster. However, that does not mean that the others aren't getting displeased - they do; it might not be enough to convince them to leave, but it quickly piles up with other things displeasing them.

As such, even a large platform can lose that critical mass of users over time, even without a massive fuckup. It's just about small things piling up.

Another thing to consider is that power users are more important to a platform than the rest of the userbase, because the power users interact with the platform more. And they're typically the ones doing janny crap, or finding and sharing content, or that actually have anything meaningful to add instead of "lol lmao". So once the power users leave, the platform becomes less desirable for the others too, and that's recursive - as the power users leave, the almost-power users leave too, then the ones after them, so goes on. And there the critical mass goes down the drain.

[–] Sine_Fine_Belli@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Yeah, well said

I agree with you

Reddit will not “die” but it’s declining and it’s decline is inevitable.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 4 points 2 weeks ago

I wouldn’t underestimate how hard one can fuck up in the pursuit of infinite profit.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 33 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Reddit is still doing just fine.

[–] ademir@lemmy.eco.br 5 points 1 week ago

unfortunately

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

Reddit just has more content but the user interface apart from old reddit + res is painful to use. It’s causing more friction from enjoying the platform.

[–] ContrarianTrail@lemm.ee 30 points 2 weeks ago

This is equivalent of stalking your ex years after breaking up and hoping them to break up with their new partner.

Move on.

[–] 1984 25 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Sadly, reddit is not dying. I thought so too but unfortunately only a microscopic amount of users cares about not being subjected to ads, tracking and ridiculous moderation if they get some entertainment in return.

Same with Instagram, Tiktok, Facebook...

A lot of people are depressed and tired (because of society design), and needs these things to pass the time in their lives.

I'm personally making some strong changes in my own life, because I got so ridiculously bored with my own life and realized I'm on the wrong path, spending my time at home so much.

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 weeks ago

Die? It's not going to die any time soon, on a corporate level.

It's already dead in the ways that made it worth using.

[–] FauxPseudo@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Define "die." Dig still exists...

[–] Stern@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Digg, and the name still exists but the site is a wholly different beast then it was, no submitting or voting on posted articles.

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

About the same amount of time for people to realize their vote matters in a democracy.

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I dunno… we could hit ecological collapse first.

[–] Meltrax@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This is a thread of pessimism i come here for daily!

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

I won’t kink shame you.

[–] NateNate60@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

I want to be clear here that this is dangerous messaging. While any individual vote likely has little effect on the outcome of an election, it's people's collective vote that does ultimately decide the outcome. And when the electorate is disengaged, disinterested, and apathetic, that is the environment in which fascism and authoritarianism thrives. Voting is not and should not be the end of a citizen's political participation, but it is still vitally important. Voting should only be the foundation of citizen political participation. It's also important to campaign, to discuss important political issues with others, and to protest and take direct action against the injustice of the political class. But if you don't vote and spread the idea that voting is meaningless, your efforts will change nothing.

This line in particular comes a lot of young people, and it is an absolutely understandable and reasonable conclusion for them to come from seeing as they are the most politically neglected group, and politicians almost never pay more than lip service to the concerns of the young. Youth turnout in elections is historically rubbish, so why would any rational politician pay heed to the demands of a voting bloc that won't influence the outcome of an election? Politicians who pander to youth voters will lose to politicians who pander to old voters simply because youth voters will stay home while old voters will show up at the polls and vote their guy into office.

It costs almost nothing to vote and to encourage others to vote as well. So do it. It is irresponsible to spread the idea that voting is meaningless without also attaching the context that if you don't vote, you have no power at all.

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Agreed. Why fight for the right to vote, then sit it out for yucks?

[–] Wahots@pawb.social 2 points 1 week ago

That, and your state and city elections matter and might be direct votes, which matter a ton now that the government is going to largely become permanently scarred and damaged for decades or longer.

[–] Ioughttamow@fedia.io 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Your vote does matter, but your just 1 out of 330 million people. Vote for your locality, and then for national elections for good measure. One day we WILL get a national popular vote unburdened by the electoral college, but we must stay the course

[–] Ioughttamow@fedia.io 0 points 2 weeks ago

Also call all trump supporters rape apologists, and all non voters rape negotiators!

[–] seathru@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 2 weeks ago

How long did it take for Myspace to "die"? Even tho most everyone left, it never did. Now it's owned by Rupert Murdoch's News Corp.

Likewise reddit will live on until there is no longer a single dollar shareholders can milk from it.

[–] Chozo@fedia.io 11 points 2 weeks ago

Reddit has been dead, it's why they've stopped banning bots so it looks like there's even more activity than before.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 11 points 2 weeks ago

Its going to continue to snowball in size. It has so much money involved its to big to fail. Its hit a critical mass of apathy users who are used to being fucked over by tech.

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 8 points 2 weeks ago

My guess: there won't be a specific date that you can poinpoint and say "Reddit died here". It'll be a slow decline, with small outbursts of re-engagement. Something like this:

Profit will follow a similar pattern, as both things are intertwined.

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Myspace is still around or was a few years ago...

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Myspace is still online.

[–] zecg@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

In my eyes it's been dead for a year.

[–] ademir@lemmy.eco.br 1 points 1 week ago
[–] Ioughttamow@fedia.io 6 points 2 weeks ago

Can you digg it?

[–] Novamdomum@fedia.io 3 points 2 weeks ago

myspace.com is still a thing so probably never. If by "die" you mean when will it become irrelevant then probably sooner.

[–] Th4tGuyII@fedia.io 3 points 2 weeks ago

Considering even MySpace and Digg stuck around despite falling into irrelevancy, I doubt Reddit will ever truly die off...

But I suspect that even irrelevancy won't happen anytime soon, simply because there's no slot-in replacement for Reddit.

As much as I like the Fediverse, we're not a slot-in replacement. Decentralisation helps make us more free, but it limits how big we can get as a platform.

You would need a centralised competitor, something like what Xitter is going through right now with BlueSky and Threads. But for as much as Spez is a piece of shit, he's no Elon Musk just yet.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We’re really going to see Reddit drop off the cliff once the Lemmy third party apps reach feature parity with the default website as the servers are much more stable now than in the June 2023 migration and once more original content creators move on over.

[–] Sine_Fine_Belli@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Yeah, that is happening not fast enough

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

I’m trying to push for more activity here by using my rss feed then posting all the articles here, creating fresh memes, informing people about the platform in classic wow, learning art so I can make more original content, putting together an ultimate guide so that people will more quickly realize the value of the platform, reporting bugs, donating to the Mlem project which has reached the fundraising record of $337.39, using Voyager advanced search to find posts and comments I’m interested in and using Thunder for my contributing stats.

The Lemmy apps now directly play videos without leaving the app like Voyager and Arctic, the moderator tools are much better, the default Lemmy ui now automatically removes url tracking in 19.6 and the developers have secured a decent round of funding to implement more groundwork.

[–] infinite_ass@leminal.space 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Reddit is the best thing to ever happen to big governments. It's wonderful for mind-control and surveillance. They are subsidized by the intelligence apparatus of USA, China, Great Britain and lots of other countries.