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[–] zquestz@lemm.ee 2 points 2 hours ago

The API is so cheap someone is going to do it anyways...

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 8 points 5 hours ago

Yeah, I remember when Reddit promised similar things...

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago

Nah, first you gotta get comfortable for a couple of years.

It's basically pig butchering for social networks.

[–] wpb@lemmy.world 0 points 2 hours ago

"we promise ;)"

[–] LegoBrickOnFire@lemmy.world 17 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

To be fair, "they" could probably train AI on Lemmy data, they just won't ask for permission and won't be charged for it

[–] frobscottle_lemmyworld@lemmy.world 34 points 18 hours ago (1 children)
[–] HeartyOfGlass@lemm.ee 8 points 12 hours ago

"Bluesky has not been offered enough money to scrape user data for AI"

[–] MaxPow3r11@lemmy.world 16 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

They also said it was decentralized which is not true.

I don't believe this.

well there's a protocol but everyone is on the main one, i don't think theres even a non personal instance.

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 14 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Bluesky is VC backed. They'll want to make money down the road, and they'll definitely train AI soon if not already.

[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe the VC's are dying soon and they wanted to do something useful with their exorbitant wealth before they die

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 6 points 19 hours ago
[–] Exec@pawb.social 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] remotelove@lemmy.ca 3 points 23 hours ago

Well, it will train it's AI on everyone else's posts. Just not your posts.

[–] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 4 points 17 hours ago

Who owns this? Another insane rich, right wing techie?

[–] macstainless@discuss.tchncs.de 121 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Oh it will as soon as the investors demand more ReTurN oN iNvEsTmEnT.

[–] errer@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Then we leave that platform too. I have zero loyalty. Zero.

[–] frunch@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago

But they'll have stragglers just the same as any major social media site. Even though many here have standards they won't easily abandon, there are scores of people that won't even know if/when AI started being used on the site or would care enough to leave if they did.

Plus every time we leave a platform we need to find or build a new one. The time it takes to get others to migrate and develop into a worthwhile community is hard to predict and it may not even work out. It sucks social media is such shit anymore, but it seems inevitable that it will remain that way given the landscape of the Internet at this point.

I say this as someone who's drifted from Fark to Digg to Reddit to Lemmy over the past 20-25 years 🎈 (zero loyalty as well)

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[–] staticsoar@sh.itjust.works 42 points 1 day ago

Won't train AI on your posts ~~until we reach critical mass of users~~.

[–] Naich@lemmings.world 66 points 1 day ago (2 children)
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[–] recapitated@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's open to the public. So, many other orgs are certainly doing it anyway.

[–] marx2k@lemmy.world 6 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

The same can be said of lemmy, mastodon or any publically accessible forum

[–] recapitated@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago

Absolutely. I worked somewhere where we routinely had alarms go off due to botnets swarming us with weird (and obnoxious) massive download tactics (of publicly available user generated content, that is).

If it can be gotten by anyone, it will be gotten by LLM trainers.

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 49 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"Well, WE won't train on your data. But this subsidiary company we created on the other hand..."

[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Or one of our 12675 carefully selected partners

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

* lube can be removed without prior notice

[–] Free_Opinions@feddit.uk 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've yet to hear a good argument for why it matters even if they did. I've made thousands of comments on Lemmy that are free for anyone to grab and do anything they want with. If I didn't want people to have access to them I wouldn't be posting on the first place.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

If I didn't want people to have access to them I wouldn't be posting on the first place.

there's the catch: it's for people. not robots, not billionaires

[–] Free_Opinions@feddit.uk 1 points 2 hours ago

Makes no differencr to me.

[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Why is this taking off but not Mastadon?

[–] 0xD@infosec.pub 13 points 19 hours ago

It's easier to use and has a recommendation algorithm.

[–] Takios@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Barrier of entry is marginally lower. With mastodon you'll have to make a decision on what instance you're creating your account. With Bluesky there's just Bluesky.

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Yep. 100% this.

Bluesky has the hyper casual "barrier'" of entry that Twitter had

[–] marx2k@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago

With bluesky ,the sign up has a section where you choose a server. The bluesky server is prefilled. Otherwise you add your own.

But not having that default option and instead having to have the user go research and figure out which server to use is an immediate turn off.

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] mke@programming.dev 6 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Which marketing and better how, exactly?

Can anyone please point me an example of Bluesky marketing that isn't word of mouth or large-event headlines on the news?

[–] Woovie@lemmy.world 4 points 19 hours ago

no, this place only circle jerks about the fediverse blindly and hates anything with a modicum of attachment to reality.

[–] obinice@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Why not? Are my posts not good enough for you Mr Bluesky?

[–] dsilverz@thelemmy.club 38 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Sounds exactly like something that someone intending to train an AI would say.

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[–] Davel23@fedia.io 31 points 1 day ago

BlueskAI on the other hand...

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 21 points 1 day ago

Trust me bro, just keep shit posing on here, we won't change out "ToS"

[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

If the AT protocol allows public access to content, they can’t create a proprietary training set. But the content is available for anyone who wants to add it to a public training set.

[–] Vanth@reddthat.com 7 points 1 day ago

But did they pinky promise?

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