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[–] inv3r510n@lemmy.world 40 points 1 day ago (1 children)

False. Nuclear war kills most of the population on the planet, whether from a direct hit, fallout, food and water being contaminated, or the breakdown of society that comes after.

Those who get killed by the direct hit will be considered lucky by the people unlucky enough to survive it.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I like how this is somehow not political but yet it apparently is just enough to get people to crawl out of the wood work with a emotional response.

People are getting fired up over something that is a random thought. Its up there with right leaning people failing a 5th grade math exam because the researchers made the answers contradict the core conservative beliefs. Political beliefs are not rational and but many people are unaware of there own irrational logic.

[–] iii@mander.xyz 0 points 1 day ago

Political beliefs are not rational and but many people are unaware of there own irrational logic.

I found https://yourmorals.org/ quite usefull in that regard.

[–] CameronDev@programming.dev 9 points 1 day ago

Unless they decided to nuke all the arable land instead, lower upfront deaths, but the long term famine will get everyone.

Realistically, nuclear war is the end of everyone, its called MAD for a reason.

[–] sxan@midwest.social 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

All of the silos are in rural areas; those are mostly known and definitely first-strike targets. Cities need very few nukes to take out individually. Nowhere will anyone be rebuilding from the ashes. If the war is limited and nuclear winter doesn't make the entire planet uninhabitable, the only places with a chance of surviving are the undeveloped countries. No developed country will be habitable.

Nuclear fallout is a bitch.

[–] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Dang, I was thinking west coast might be OK because of the winds.

[–] corvi@lemm.ee 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

All-out nuclear war would kill every human on the planet.

[–] inv3r510n@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think that’s an exaggeration, but the population would drop dramatically and only small self sustaining nations far from the conflict would survive. But it’s 2024 and most of the world is interdependent on each other for trade of essential goods…

[–] movies@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nuclear war would be absolutely apocalyptic. Lookup the US policy on “Launch on Warning” and “Hair-trigger alert”. Russia has the same thing and China by this point probably does, too. If the US were targeted those doctrines would come into effect and we’d go into “escalate to de-escalate” mode. And that’d make it worse.

There would be multiple thousands of warheads launched around the globe. EMPs would be detonated in the atmosphere, continent-wide power grids would fail. A single Ohio-class nuclear submarine has more destructive power than every bomb, including the two nukes, dropped in WWII — and they’d light the place up. And then you have all the various contamination in the air, soil, and water that would be cycled through the ecosystem for hundreds and thousands of years.

Pockets of people would live, certainly, but it’d be awful. Like Khrushchev said, “the survivors will envy the dead.”

[–] inv3r510n@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, once one nuke starts flying they’re all going to start flying. Maybe some small island communities in the South Pacific would survive but they’ll probably wish they didn’t…

You brought up US China and Russia, but don’t forget how many others have nukes. India and Pakistan would go at it too… France has nukes as well right? I can’t remember if the UK, Germany and Norway do…

It would be an absolute shit show. It’s downright frightening that some members of society think that “only the democrat cities will get hit!” In the shower no less… are the trump voters being primed to accept a nuclear war because they don’t think they will suffer? Scary shit.

[–] remon@ani.social 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yup, even killing 99% of the population leaves 8,00,000 people, and many of them won't develop cancer fast enough to keep the population from continuing.

[–] BlitzoTheOisSilent@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Thanks, didn't see that one. I'll check it out tonight.

[–] Sergio@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 day ago

Take a look at the movie "Threads" about the effects of a nuclear war. It's from back in the cold war, but a lot of it remains relevant:

[–] Cryan24@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Australia, New Zealand, Ireland (possibly) and some South American countries would be ok.

[–] PrincessKadath@ani.social 3 points 1 day ago

So, the Handmaiden's Tale?

[–] Zahille7@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You're so fucking stupid I don't even have an insult or something clever to say, other than remove yourself from the gene pool.

[–] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Don't take it to much to heart. My guess is that the election results are upsetting people which means they get mad as a defense.

[–] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It did involve politics but only because cities are densely populated and usually vote blue. Rural red is not a target for mass casualties.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

I get your logic. It is a little flawed but at the end of the day it is probably not worth putting thought into it.

It is a shower thought

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

How dare they have a shower thought!

Seriously though shower thoughts don't need to be rational and they especially aren't well researched. Calling for someone to take there own life is very much not ok. We already have a mental health crisis and people are taking there own lives at a alarming rate.

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Where I live will never be a bomb target. So, I'll still be here. But you're right. I'm VERY outnumbered.

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Tinfoil hat on

I have a feeling that we're gonna see the first use of a WMD by Russia against the US in the next 4 years. Perhaps not a full out nuke, but something like a thermobaric weapon used against a Democratic city like NYC.

My theory is that this will be secretly coordinated between Trump and Putin months in advance. It serves as a show of force for Russia, while at the same time conveniently feeds into Trump's desire for retribution. Russia will say that it's revenge for helping Ukraine. Trump will spout some BS about not wanting to escalate to save face. Big events like that also tend to benefit the current president in office. The facts will come out months or years after it happens.

[–] BonerMan@ani.social 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nah the rural areas would die longer and more painful deaths.

[–] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Perhaps. I was thinking that if countries are going after casualties, the would simply fire at large cities. Those who live on a farm in the middle of nowhere, would mostly just have to worry about the winds blowing the fallout towards them.

[–] BonerMan@ani.social 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Actually USA has this "nuclear sponge" strategy you might look into it.

[–] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

Didn't know. I'd love to look into that.