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Steam is 'an unsafe place for teens and young adults': US senator warns Gabe Newell of 'more intense scrutiny' from the government if Valve doesn't take action against extremist content (www.pcgamer.com)

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[–] callouscomic@lemm.ee 45 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (8 children)

As a long time Steam user, while I still really like Steam and think it's the more consumer friendly platform, it has devolved greatly. Especially discussion forums are nearly no different than reddit toxicity where people exhibit their worst behaviors. I miss the legitimate discussions and love for specific games. Now it's mostly complaining and complete disregard for developers being humans.

The flood of garbage games has also been fairly obvious over the last decade. Some filters on your account handle a lot of this at least for the adult ones, but not all of it. It reminds me of the Wii shovelware era, but far worse.

BUT I would remind the Senator they STILL don't even have a fucking budget passed for this fiscal year we are already a month and a half into and they oughta stay in their lane and do their first basic god damn job before pointing at the supposed failures of others.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 5 points 14 hours ago

I'm sure they're able to walk and chew bubble gum at the same time, if you want the government to work on only one thing at a time things will be even worse than they are.

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[–] ParkedInReverse@lemmy.world 151 points 20 hours ago (9 children)

Kinda stretching it aren't they?

[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 132 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (4 children)

Pepe is a beloved internet meme, not a symbol of hate. Rightoid asshats need to leave pepe and doge the fuck alone. >:(

[–] oce@jlai.lu 57 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I thought it came from 4chan, but it actually comes from Myspace. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pepe_the_Frog

[–] Grumpy@sh.itjust.works 62 points 18 hours ago (4 children)

Wtf pepe is considered alt-right because alt-right uses them sometimes??? I hear they also use English! Maybe English needs to get banned!

[–] oce@jlai.lu 10 points 13 hours ago

Same shit happened to the swastika. It comes from Hinduism, still widely used there, in the West it also used to be a symbol of good luck before the 30'. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika

[–] Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world 32 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

They didn't just use it sometimes, they were using it as an intentional dog whistle, that is the difference. Part of dog whistling is choosing something that, otherwise, has had no real relationship to the thing it is being used as a dog whistle for.

[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 23 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

so they can choose anything and we just have to stop using it because its their dogwhistle now?

[–] Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world 20 points 15 hours ago (7 children)

No, but you have to understand that it now comes with the context of being a WP dog whistle. The symbolism of the Nazis weren't anything to their ideology before hand. They had widespread use for thousands of years. Now they, especially the primary one, is all but verboten in the west, and people who use things, like the swastika, as religious symbols, even know to tread with caution using it in the west. White hoods, and robes, have been used in cultural/religious regalia forever. However, you don't use them in the US unless you consider being mistaken for a klan memeber.

Can we reclaim pepe? Probably, it was minor compared to the aforementioned things, and the creator has done a lot to kibosh the commercial use of it from right wing people. However, it was that, and that context doesn't just disappear because you don't like it.

[–] 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works 8 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

There's a whole documentary about reclaiming pepe called "feels good man"

The more we discourage people from using pepe because WP and shitheads, the more they win.

[–] Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world 5 points 11 hours ago

I agree, a number of the places I hang out online, and friends, use it. None of them are like that. However, when researching bigotry in culture, it will inevitably come up, and it's significance as an indicator is complicated. So, best to read the details of the data, and what they have to say about it, beyond and chart, and headline, and keep in mind that there is real reason to attach the frog to the alt-right, but it is used in many other ways.

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[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 15 points 17 hours ago

Korrekt!

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[–] Darohan@lemmy.zip 16 points 19 hours ago (10 children)

Wait, is just using a Valknut considered a hate symbol? I was under the impression that it was a pretty common "I like Vikings/Odin/Paganism" type symbol... Same with Tyr tbh.

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[–] CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml 7 points 18 hours ago

How is the PFLP a hate symbol LMAO

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[–] Zoldyck@lemmy.world 83 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

Oh fuck off. The US is an unsafe place, not Steam.

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[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 16 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Steam discussion forums on every game are a complete dumpster fire. Someone needs to do better, whether it is Steam themselves or moderators.

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[–] stardust@lemmy.ca 56 points 19 hours ago

Old ass boomer fixating on games are evil I guess and finding it deserves more attention than places like Twitter and YouTube filled with influencers who have the captive audience of very susceptible individuals that they are molding them to their image. Maybe focus on the root cause.

[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 14 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

they go after my hobbies and i will turn into extremist

[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 hours ago

They're creating the one thing they want to destroy. lol

[–] Fuzzy_Red_Panda@lemm.ee 2 points 13 hours ago

The nazis, or the government?

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 18 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

Literally turning america entirely into an unsafe place then threatening others for it. Are they trying to do a government take over of a shiny appealing money maker? It sure seems like they actually want the nazis everywhere else, I bet if they actually do anything they will keep the nazis if they actually exist in the first place.

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[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 13 points 19 hours ago

If we're pitching microtransactions as extremist content, I'm on board.

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