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Summary

The International Criminal Court (ICC) has issued arrest warrants for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, former defense minister Yoav Gallant, and Hamas officials, accusing them of war crimes and crimes against humanity in Gaza and during the October 2023 attacks.

The court alleges actions like depriving Gaza civilians of essential resources.

Israel and the U.S., non-members of the ICC, reject the warrants, with Netanyahu calling them antisemitic.

Hamas also criticized the decision.

The practical enforcement of these warrants remains uncertain, as the ICC lacks authority to compel arrests.

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[–] Draghetta@lemmy.world 76 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They’ve been preparing for this for a while. Months ago already I remember reading accusations of the ICC being antisemitic by Israelis and various sympathisers. The old fiddle that never stops playing.

[–] nixcamic@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Well the ICC won't let me be or let me be me so we'll just see. -- Benjamin Netanyahu

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 62 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Those warrants aren't worth the paper they're printed on, but it's still nice to see official bodies outside the US calling Netanyahu what he is.

[–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Not really, if a group of spies got together and kidnapped him to a country that respects the ICC he would be arrested. Just like this

[–] RedstoneValley@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Not exactly. The ratifying countries are bound by contract to arrest them. Plus It's a serious issue not to do it, because this would delegitimize the ICC as an institution, which is not in the interest of most ratifying countries. So it essentially boils down to a choice between losing the court as a valuable weapon against war criminals or bad relations with Israel.

What happens after an arrest is another matter and I think that is where the real pressure would happen

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[–] the_wise_wolf@feddit.org 46 points 2 days ago

Those warrants are worth a lot. Not enough to put them behind bars, but still a lot!

[–] BMTea@lemmy.world 36 points 2 days ago (2 children)

These warrants absolutely matter in terms of being a trumo card in several legal issues relating to EU-Israel relations.

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[–] NastyNative@mander.xyz 38 points 2 days ago (7 children)

This is the correct call! A majority of Palestinians and Israeli do not want war. It’s a few bad apples on both sides and they should all be jailed.

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 38 points 2 days ago (10 children)

As someone living in Israel, that's a nice thought but a fundamental misunderstanding of Israeli politics. The vast majority of Israelis not only support war but support a complete and total genocide of every Muslim in the middle east. Furthermore a very large amount of Israelis see the hostages as an acceptable loss if it means they can kill more Palestinian civilians. Its not "a few bad apples", Israel is a fundamentally rotten "nation" that only exists on genocide and war.

[–] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've heard that it's quite jarring to be living in Israel as someone who's progressive. Like, it's not just about state suppression of protests, but the levels of social condemnation that you get when the media landscape is so heavily skewed

Yes, I get socially ostracized whenever I express any even slightly left wing points. Hell even pointing out the nearly 50k dead Palestinian civilians causes people to respond angrily and with comments like "they brought it upon themselves" or "it's the fault of Hamas exclusively"

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[–] Saleh@feddit.org 40 points 2 days ago

Israelis are largely in favor of it. Netanyahus approval has skyrocketed, when they launched the offensive on Lebanon and Israelis opposing the wars and occupation are increasingly targeted by the government and government affiliated "settler" terror groups. These terror groups have ramped up their pogroms in East Jerusalem and the West Bank and decent Israelis who get in their way are beaten while the IDF watches.

[–] Sabata11792@ani.social 35 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Genocide takes a lot more than a few bad apples making a whoopsie.

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[–] small44@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Not such a thing as bad apple in an occupied population

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[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Finally! Now arrest the fuckers.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

He first needs to come out of Israel to visit a country that recognizes the ICC...

[–] Eril@feddit.org 13 points 2 days ago (3 children)

And then the country still needs to actually arrest him. Am I right, Mongolia?

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Mongolia is landlocked between Putin's country and China. Not arresting him was the same as a cop deciding that maybe they shouldn't arrest a mafia don on their own, while surrounded by the gang.

This is a tad bit different.

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[–] JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

I doubt any country will have the stones to arrest him in the face of US pressure.

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 48 points 2 days ago (2 children)

At least with America going full mask off as a force of evil, the rest of the world can stop waiting on us to do the right thing.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 day ago

I think the mask truly went off in 2003. Dubya was an international terrorist in the highest office of the world.

[–] nomous@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Seriously if anything good can come from this the U.S. needs to stop fucking around with other countries sovereignty and handle it's own affairs for a few decades.

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[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

There is number of countries already said they would.

"The Netherlands, Switzerland, Ireland, Italy, and Spain all said they would meet their commitments and obligations regarding the Rome Statute and International Law."

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