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I'm impressed at how obvious of a lie this is and how hard they're trying to do mental gymnastics to justify their argument.

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[–] beliquititious@lemmy.blahaj.zone 63 points 4 weeks ago

To be fair they're not actually lying, they are misrepresenting the truth. Facebook actually doesn't sell your data to third parties because they lease temporary access to it instead. Selling the data would mean they couldn't recapitalize it with the same customers.

Meta's customers couldn't use it to skip doing their own market research and need to already know who they want to advertise to before they buy ads with Facebook. (It does provide insights and analytics about demographics during a campaign as well)

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 49 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)
[–] countrypunk@slrpnk.net 39 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

My apologies. I will update it to have an accessible version.

Edit: accessible transcription has been added

[–] sic_semper_tyrannis 9 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] countrypunk@slrpnk.net 16 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm using the voyager client on android. There's an option when you make/edit a post to add an accessible caption.

[–] sic_semper_tyrannis 6 points 4 weeks ago

I use Voyager too. I'll take a look for that setting. Thanks

[–] Kidplayer_666@lemm.ee 18 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Essentially they claim they don’t sell data. They say instead they process it in house and just have advertisers indicate a certain desired profile and then yhey show the ads, without transferring info

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 8 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Because everybody's totally going to believe that. LOL.

[–] smac@sopuli.xyz 5 points 4 weeks ago

Selling it would be bad business. By just offering ad targeting to their customers, the customers keep coming back. Once they sell it the customer doesn't need them anymore. (used to work in an advertising-based internet business. This is how it's done.)

[–] countrypunk@slrpnk.net 3 points 4 weeks ago

If that's true, sure. Then they'd not be selling data but profiting off it.

[–] vardogor@mander.xyz -2 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

bro, just feel the letters.

[–] JeezNutz@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago

Blind people can't feel you idiot

[–] jjlinux@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] vardogor@mander.xyz 6 points 4 weeks ago

lol, what? thought they'd find it funny.

[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 33 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

they don't sell your data. advertisers just pick out the target audience and meta places the ads for them. This is the way google and meta have been doing ads for a while. Actually selling your data is illegal.

They still use your data to push ads so it's a violation of privacy. Just wanna get the facts straight.

Unless there's been some leak recently I'm unaware of?

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 4 points 4 weeks ago

It's just deceptive wording. I think most people would view "selling our decisions based on your data" as "selling your data".

[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 4 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (2 children)

They sell to brokers, who then sell to whomever.

Then also, chrome and firefox have recently gotten the option to track you offline and just pass that info directly to websites.

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 4 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't believe meta sells to brokers.

[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com -1 points 3 weeks ago

All we know is that they're an advertising business. For all we know they use most of it for themselves

[–] sadTruth@lemmy.hogru.ch 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Here some info about how much and what kind of user data is being sold (GPS position,...), and the legality of it all.

[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 1 points 3 weeks ago

I don't need to read some German blog to know that a company with a long history of sketchy behavior is sketchy. They've gotten on the news with their behavior plenty of times.

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 16 points 4 weeks ago

So, they're not lying. This is what they do. Meta is not in the business of selling (or leasing, like the other commenter said) your data. They are in the business of holding your data, so they can agregate it together and sell anonymous targeting. Same with Google and Apple. Plenty of reasons to dislike this, but that doesn't make it a lie.

[–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

ToS never works. Libre software does.

[–] countrypunk@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You're preaching to the choir

[–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

They're still crying over ToS.

[–] underwire212@lemm.ee 6 points 3 weeks ago

Where is the lie? They don’t sell your data. That’s not how they operate. In fact, they want to keep your data as secure as possible so no one else can use it.

They build models from user data and basically sell those models to businesses. Models that can be used to manipulate behavior and distort reality.

Data brokers, on the other hand…they sell your data.

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago

Surveillance advertising is a crime, period

https://www.zzzuckerberg.com/