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I know that there was was lancet study that estimated it at 180k+, but it's been half a year and i'm wondering if there is an updated count? I know the question is grim, i just want to be up to date

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[–] D61@hexbear.net 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)

All the infrastructure that catalogues the dead is either completely destroyed or overwhelmed to the point that it will be years before any reliably confident number can be determined.

[–] dditty@lemm.ee 17 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It's so infuriating and depressing that the MSM keeps using the ~40-44K figures too.

[–] tocopherol@hexbear.net 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

The most infuriating detail of the death toll reporting is it's almost always phrased something like "44,000 have died in Gaza (according to the Hamas-run health department), after the conflict was initiated by the brutal massacre of 1,200 civilians by Hamas"

[–] stink@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"1,200 civilians of which 3/4 were in the military"

[–] D61@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And how many in that death toll were from Israeli fire? fidel-wut

[–] stink@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 month ago

It's antisemitic to criticize my use of the Hannibal Directive. How DARE you?

[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's the only ""official"" toll being released by (what remains of) the Gazan Health Ministry, even if with every daily statement they append "this doesn't include tens of thousands still missing or trapped under rubble".

In the North there's not even civil defense anymore so no more tolls from there.

It upsets me but the Gaza ministry is especially strict out of fear of being called a "Hamas front" yet that's exactly what the Zionists do anyway.

[–] D61@hexbear.net 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I was under the impression that the official toll numbers, at this point, are specifically do to their criteria being "positively identified". So, more along the lines of "we know the name and family of this person" and less about worrying what the opinions of the occupation forces are.

[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 month ago

It'll be 40-50k officially until many years after the war, I fear. By then the Wikipedia articles will have been finalised and the history books printed in peer-edited Hebrew.

[–] Hestia@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago

Right now the death toll is "unquantifiably horrendous"

[–] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago

Updated account? No way until the war is over...