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[–] ArtyTester@artemis.camp 72 points 1 year ago (2 children)

he keeps tweaking his resume, cutting it from 10 pages to two, then beefing it up to 24.

I’m no expert, but a 24 page resume?! I think I found your problem bud.

[–] netburnr@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Anything past 2-3 pages and I won't read it.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Resumes are written for AI these days, not us.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That's fine if all the real content is in the first couple of pages and the keyword soup is clearly marked as such.

Edit: I forgot to mention that's just my opinion, and I don't read a lot of resumes these days. I think the real thing to remember is that at some point your resume is going to be read by a human being, and you don't want to piss them off by making a tedious job even harder.

[–] NightAuthor@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

That’s not a bad idea, I’ve been told that the hidden keyword soup is generally looked down upon, but I guess you could just make it visible.

[–] MooseBoys@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Nope, because the automated pre-filter won’t even be able to understand it and will reject it outright.

[–] skyspydude1@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Seriously, wtf? Even some of the most extensive CVs I've ever seen from people with 30+ year careers still only top out at maybe 5 or so pages. I'm guessing this dude is trying to do what every first timer does and put literally every thing they've ever learned on their resume, every course with the syllabus description, every hobby, and just attaching the full job description for every job they've ever done.

I have a 2 page resume, and can still fit every skill, my last 5 roles, and even any relevant hobbies or other things to "stand out". There's literally no reason to have a resume this large, and it's going straight into the garbage.

[–] vagrantprodigy@lemmy.whynotdrs.org 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Mine is 1 page. I never let it get longer, because most people I know don't read past the first page. If it's not important enough to go on page 1, it doesn't need to exist on the resume.

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[–] Frog-Brawler@kbin.social 25 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I get random messages on LinkedIn from people that want to interview me weekly, and my team has also seen some voluntary turnover. I’m not sure that I believe the article.

[–] zib@kbin.social 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

In the last 3 months, I've managed to get 2 interviews and the last one ghosted me. It's still pretty bad for some of us.

[–] dinckelman@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I can attest to this. People want workers with way too much experience, paying way too little money, and that's on top of moving to a location that doesn't make any sense. Some of the jobs I've seen here required me to move to a city where the rent is double what the salary would have been

[–] netburnr@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are you using a recruiter?

[–] zib@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

No, I don't work with recruitment agencies anymore. Only ever had bad experiences with them earlier in my career, so these days, I apply for positions directly.

[–] ChexMax@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

My husband in tech related job has been out of work for almost a year. He applies to things daily and has an interview once every two weeks or so (not counting many follow up interviews). He's a decent interviewer. The usual response is, we like you for this, we'll keep you in mind in the future, we just had so many applicants and the other guy is a better fit (or, we suspect, will do this job for less money). My brother in tech has also been out of work for months. Maybe your area is doing well? Our area had massive tech layoffs and is now way over saturated, and one of the main employers of our state (a tech firm) has been on a hiring freeze for months and months. Believe the article.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Get your resume out and see how long it takes you to just get a response asking to schedule a call. I’ve been job hunting opportunistically for 6 mo the and have applies to maybe 50 jobs and I have gotten 3 rejection emails and that is IT.

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[–] Triple_B@lemmy.zip 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I left tech a couple years ago. Left as in I couldn't find work, so I drifted through a few dead end jobs before my next career landed in my lap. And you know what? I'm happier doing this than I ever was working at a computer all day.

[–] CatsGoMOW@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Triple_B@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I work in nuclear power now. Valve work.

[–] terminhell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Steam deck getting new specs? /S

[–] Triple_B@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Gabe doesn't want to brag about it, but the lads and ladettes actually compressed a Tesla's battery to the size of a Game Gear, with no loss to mAH and its being included in the new Steam Deck. It also comes with a small fusion reactor to charge it in about 15 minutes. Customers have to provide cooling and a spent fuel pool, though.

[–] terminhell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago

I'm here for it. I've got my steel barrels, concrete and a backhoe in the backyard ready XD

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lol bro come on you can’t just say that and then not tell us what the new career is.

[–] Triple_B@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 year ago

My bad, I work in nuclear power now.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is a lot of Tech in Tech.

Are we talking about Senior Designer-Developers, Web-Designers with 5 years experience or SEO experts with 2 years?!

[–] photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What about mechanical engineers? Aerodynamic? Microsystems? Electronic? Tech companies always want these types.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I was mainly thinking about mainly software companies because that's my background but you make a very good point.

[–] YoFrodo@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I was laid off from a 16 year job at a tech hosting company and have been looking for a new job for about 4 months. It sucks

[–] Rayspekt@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The "tech" label confuses me as a non-american. This means just IT programming/computer stuff, right? Because it's funny to me that stuff like mechanical engineering isn't considered part of "tech".

Might be that the "tech" market is now saturated. Computer science was THE trend topic to doin STEM from my subjective view, so maybe that crashed into the bursting tech bubble that we are experiencing now with all the enshittification and layoffs and stuff.

[–] singron@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Also most workers at tech companies are not computer programmers. Marketing, sales, support, success, operations, managment, recruiting, HR, accounting, project managment, and product managment usually make up most of the employees. You are probably better at these jobs if you have prior experience in the same industry, but what job isn't like that?

[–] theluddite@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's actually very confusing. I think the only good definition is that it's a cultural designation for any company that was focused on digital technology at its inception, which comes with a certain cultural package, and even that has some problems. Netflix is a tech company, not a movie studio, but HBO is not a tech company, even though it also has a streaming platform, and Netflix produces a lot of its own stuff, which is even more confusing because Netflix started as a company that would mail you DVDs. Amazon is a tech company, but WalMart is not, even though Amazon has many physical stores and WalMart does more and more of its business online.

Mechanical engineering can be a part of tech, but again I think it's a cultural designation before anything else at this point. Plenty of mechanical engineers work at Apple, which is definitely a tech company, but if you're a mechanical engineer working on an oil rig, that's not tech.

Add to the confusion that Twitter is a tech company. At this point, what technology is Twitter really developing? Isn't technology about innovation? No doubt that a platform of that size has substantial daily engineering problems to overcome, but like... is that really what we mean when we say technology? Plenty of non-tech companies also deal with the same thing.

I wrote a whole thing fleshing out my theory, if you're curious.

edit: just under this post in my feed is one about how netflix is going to open physical stores.

[–] SkyNTP@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Tech" in the tech sector is really just short for high technology, which itself mostly just means information technology.

Engineers work on all kinds of technologies, not just information technology.

There's lots of things that are 'high tech' that aren't IT, though. Microsystems, nanotech, nanophotonics, high-precision machining, etc.

[–] Johanno@feddit.de 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

In Germany we are still looking for people. Only catch is that you need to move to Germany and learn German. At least a little bit

[–] TheDarkKnight@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Literally was in Berlin a month ago, having lunch listening to two businessmen talk about how they cannot find enough cybersecurity talent anywhere, was kinda wild.

On cyber the need is real but the field is the size of walking across Europe and usually the need is that this special someone will walk everywhere to do everything as an expert for a regular salary.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Im not allowed to say the words I know.

[–] Yuki@kutsuya.dev 1 points 1 year ago
[–] Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The amount of tech recruiters I have calling and emailing me daily would indicate otherwise.

[–] PeterPoopshit@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They're desperate for people that will work for less than a living wage for the area.

[–] Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Idk about that. The jobs I get hit up for are all 225k-300k across various states.

[–] dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They want the best and want to pay McDonald's wages for it. Or the workplace is so toxic nobody lasts a week there

[–] Bigmouse@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

It might mot be hard, but it's still a nightmare

[–] zeluko@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Send a request, got an online interview a week later, another one a week later and a contract after 2 days.
Good pay, lots of training opportunities, no controlling managers and flexible work times.

Of course, not in the US, lol. Thats where you get scewed either way.

[–] dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Personally I found factory work to be a good stop gap, doing the exact same motion over and over again until the machine breaks tickles my neurons the same way programming does

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