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France on Saturday said it will deploy 7,000 soldiers after declaring a top-level alert following the fatal stabbing of a teacher by a Chechen-origin man, who also severely wounded three others at a school.

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[–] Alami@lemmy.world 50 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I wish he would recruit and deploy 7,000 teachers instead. There are 10 000 towns of more than 1000 inhabitants in France, it would be barely enough

[–] Murvel@lemm.ee 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] Alami@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] Murvel@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Well, obviously, they can, but do you know where one might find 10 000 available French teachers? It takes time. The urgency of a terrorist threat is different.

[–] Alami@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The scarcity of teachers is decades long. How much time do you have in mind?

[–] Murvel@lemm.ee -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Idk, however long it takes?

[–] Alami@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

You're the real actiUn hero

[–] Murvel@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago
[–] bouh@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

There is no urgency. If they spent the money to hire teachers instead of harassing immigrant and sending charters to split their families for example, we wouldn't have had this attack.

Fascist solution to everything is violence, cops and soldiers. It solves nothing, it creates more problems, people die, fascist ask for more. What a beautiful time ahead of us...

[–] Murvel@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Macron is a fascists?!, shit lemmy waking me up every other day...

[–] bouh@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

Since January now. When the president talks about the limit on the number of mandates he can get as a stupid relic of the past, I am concerned. But since then it got way worse.

[–] taladar@feddit.de 8 points 11 months ago

It is called opportunity costs. You can usually not magic twice the amount of money out of thin air.

[–] Knusper@feddit.de 21 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Seems just a tad excessive...?

[–] tal 32 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I think that this is kinda a standard French security theater thing, as France has done it repeatedly before. Some terrorist kills some people in France, French government deploys a bunch of soldiers to visibly stand around in public places, public is satisfied that something is being done.

The real stuff that France is doing to deal with terrorism is going to be on the intelligence side. Can't really see that, though, so to the public, looks like the government is just standing around doing nothing, which I imagine is annoying to the government.

[–] Sylvartas@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Well, allegedly the guy who just murdered a teacher was supposed to be under surveillance. But they have been putting way too many people to realistically monitor under that "level" of surveillance, including way less dangerous political opponents e.g the people on trial right now that you may have heard about, who are being tried for the heinous crimes of checks notes having Signal installed on their phone, possessing technical documentation and mocking Macron.

Macron is trying to militarize the whole country

[–] JasSmith@sh.itjust.works 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It’s so heartbreaking for the French to open their hearts and homes to migrants, only to be murdered for their hospitality. Let’s hope this show of force deters any other would-be terrorists. The only thing we can be grateful for is terrorists are cowards. They hurt the weak and innocent because they’re easy victims.

[–] RealJoL@feddit.de 2 points 11 months ago

It still rubs me wrong that countries deploy their soldiers in the interiour. Securing the public space is foremost reserved for police forces for a specific reason. Placing soldier in the streets creates a dynamic that implies the citizen may be the enemy, which I feel is highly counterproductive and may lead to american circumstances.

[–] bilboswaggings@sopuli.xyz 1 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I wonder what kind of twisted logic people use to justify this... if it's supposed to be effective wouldn't just one man with a gun be enough, why do you need 7000? (Because it doesn't work)

[–] thanksforallthefish@literature.cafe 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Because there are thousands of towns across france and the country is thousands of kilometres across, so this means there can be at least a couple of troops nearby if something kicks off (and there have been violent protests as well as peaceful ones).

Your "one man" is pretty useless if he's in Paris and it kicks off in Marseille a thousand km away.

Given a terrorist killed someone a couple of days ago pretty much on the anniversary of the teacher getting beheaded last year it's not unreasonable for there to be heightened readiness

[–] whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I mean it's all around France, but yeah, it's just to say they are doing something, it's not like there is much chance that something happens right now

I sincerely hope you're right, but when footage of Israel performing their atrocities in reply comes out, then history suggests it will kick off in western countries.

[–] bouh@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

It's incompetent politician bullshit. It absolutely doesn't matter if it's usefull or not. It's the old fascist move of parading soldiers so you look like you're doing something when you are in fact doing absolutely nothing useful.