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They'd get sued whether they do it or not really. If they don't they get sued by those that want privacy invasive scanning. If they do, they're gonna get sued when they inevitably end up landing someone in hot water because they took pictures of their naked child for the doctors.

Protecting children is important but can't come at the cost of violating everyone's privacy and making you guilty unless proven innocent.

Meanwhile, children just keep getting shot at school and nobody wants to do anything about it, but oh no, we can't do anything about that because muh gun rights.

First: I'm not in any way intending to cast any negative light on the horrible shit the people suing went through.

But it also kinda feels like a lawyer convinced a victim they could get paid if they sued Apple, because Apple has lots of money.

If you really were serious about suing to force change, you've literally got:

1. X, who has reinstated the accounts of people posting CSAM
2. Google/Youtube, who take zero action on people posting both horrible videos AND comments on said videos routinely
3. Instagram/Facebook, which have much the same problem as X with slow or limited action on reported content

Apple, at least, will take immediate action if you report a user to them, so uh, maybe they should reconsider their best target, if their intent really is to remove content and spend some time on all the other giant corpos that are either literally actively doing the wrong thing, doing nothing, or are sitting there going 'well, akshully' at reports.

I thought the way they intended to handle it was pretty reasonable, but the idea that there is an actual obligation to scan content is disgusting.

“People like to joke about how we don’t listen to users/feedback. About how we just assert our vision and do things how we wish. Like our mouse. It drives people absolutely bonkers! But this time we listened to the pushback. And now they sue us?”

Is iCloud a file sharing service or social network in some way? If it isn't, comparing them with such services makes no sense

Children should be made illegal, this is a self resolving problem.

Is this a free system, by the way?

Is Apple essentially getting sued for not giving another company money?

I just read up, and I didn't know this is not so much about stopping new images, but restitution for continued damages.

The plaintiffs are "victims of the Misty Series and Jessica of the Jessica Series" ( be careful with your googling) https://www.casemine.com/judgement/us/5914e81dadd7b0493491c7d7

Correct me please, The plaintiffs logic is : "The existence of these files is damaging to us. Anyone found ever in possession of one of these files is required by law to pay damages. Any company who stores files for others, must search every file for one these 100 files, and report that files owner to the court"

I thought it was more about protecting the innocent, and future innocent, and it seems more about compensating the hurt.

Am I missing something?

The irony is that the Apple CSAM detection system was as good as we could make it at the time, with multiple steps to protect people from accidental positives.

But, as usual, I think I was the only one who actually read the paper and didn’t go “REEEE muh privacy!!!” after seeing the headline.