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submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by Amarok@kbin.social to c/news@kbin.social

A VEGAN influencer is feared to have died of starvation after attempting to live on a fruit only diet. Zhanna Samsonova, 39, previously told how she spent four years eating and drinking just fruits…

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[-] dandan@kbin.social 38 points 11 months ago

You missed an important part of the headline "is feared to have..."

It says she caught a "cholera like" infection

[-] ValiantDust@feddit.de 27 points 11 months ago

Yeah. It's The Sun and they put 'dies of starvation' in quotes. They are presenting rumors as facts (again).

[-] Nepenthe@kbin.social 6 points 11 months ago

Ah, thank you. Was very confused and I am relieved to find that eating food of any kind still does not cause the body to starve. Although honestly, in this damn timeline, i would just shrug at this point

[-] Bonehead@kbin.social 17 points 11 months ago

I am relieved to find that eating food of any kind still does not cause the body to starve.

Except it does when you eat nothing but carbs and fiber with little to no fat and protein. You can be vegan all you want, but ignoring basic nutrition will always result in disaster.

[-] monobot@lemmy.ml 9 points 11 months ago

And

Zhanna's official cause of death has not been released yet, however.

Additionally she does look anorexic on some pictures, both things have nothing to do with being vegan, people are just pushing their hate by usings someone misfortune.

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[-] plantstho@kbin.social 10 points 11 months ago

This has absolutely nothing to do with veganism.

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[-] matjoeman@kbin.social 5 points 11 months ago

Can we ban The Sun, please?

[-] BruceTwarzen@kbin.social 4 points 11 months ago

A VEGAN influencer. Thanks for making that really clear.

[-] aroom@kbin.social 11 points 11 months ago

this has nothing to do with being vegan. please stop.

[-] Gh05t@beehaw.org 10 points 11 months ago

If she starved or died due to complications from her diet, if she wasn’t able to stave off an infection for example or recover properly from an illness that would not affect an otherwise healthy individual - I would say her diet or nutrition lifestyle is germane to the situation.

I believe that being vegan is a perfectly valid lifestyle and dietary choice but also people should be aware of some of the pitfalls.

Can you please elaborate why you feel that being vegan has nothing to do with it?

[-] Redscare867@lemmy.ml 7 points 11 months ago

Because the overwhelming majority of vegans aren’t eating nothing but fruit? Come on dude you can’t actually be this dense.

[-] Gh05t@beehaw.org 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Look I’m sorry. I thought I had phrased my comment in a nonthreatening and inclusive way. But I guess you are right and I’m a complete useless human moron.

I’ll not comment anymore then.

Please see also my response to the other non toxic vegan person for clarification.

It just occurred to me that this Vegan influencer was promoting a lifestyle that may be dangerous and we should discuss it but I’m a moron so I’ll go away.

This is a case like not all gun owners suck only some gun owners suck.

The article was unfair. That’s a good discussion topic. Vegans aren’t all fruit people. That’s also valid. The importance of diet and the impact on our earth - also valid and crucial. How I should behave as to not come across as a dense moron - I’m not sure interesting to anyone else but I’m willing to have a go if you both are.

[-] Murvel@lemm.ee 9 points 11 months ago

She was a vegan promoting vegan diet online. How does thay have ntohing to do with being a vegan? what?!

[-] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 12 points 11 months ago

Her mother Vera Samsonova said she had caught a "cholera-like infection" just hours before she was due to fly home.

Zhanna's official cause of death has not been released yet, however.

The SUN: "SHE DIED OF VEGANISM!"
Lemming: "How does this story have nothing to do with her being vegan?!?!"

I see we're already at Reddit type levels of idiocy.

[-] Pandantic@kbin.social 4 points 11 months ago

Let’s be honest, tho: you don’t know either as her cause of death has not been released. I agree, the other user jumped to conclusions, but you can’t say anything definitive as of now either.

[-] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago

I never claimed to know her cause of death. But between "cholera" and "veganism" I'd rather bet on the former.

[-] Murvel@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

So the story has nothing to do with veganism, is that the point your trying to make? Really unclear

[-] monobot@lemmy.ml 7 points 11 months ago

Because not all vegans eat the same restricted diet she was on. And not all vegans are anotexic, vegans do eat enough.

[-] Murvel@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

But I guess this vegan did starve herself. I don't even think the sun suggested all vegans diets are deadly.

[-] monobot@lemmy.ml 7 points 11 months ago

If they put it like that in the title, I see it like they are strongly implying it. Of course, I might be misreading it.

Also calling someone who eats only five different plants vegan does not sound really truthful to me either.

[-] IncognitoErgoSum@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago

Any vegan with half a brain knows that you need more than just fruit to be healthy. Assuming her death by infection is a result of her diet (which is possible, but we don't know that), she died of being an idiot, not a vegan.

[-] mobyduck648@beehaw.org 3 points 11 months ago

It’s the Sun, what do people expect other than incendiary content that’s usually wrong? We should all take a leaf out of Liverpool’s book and have nothing to do with it.

For people who aren’t from the UK we’re kind of the other way around to America, our TV and radio news is generally pretty well-adjusted on the whole but our tabloid press is straight up infotainment and this has carried over into the internet era.

[-] roldyclark@kbin.social 4 points 11 months ago

I knew someone who became a fruitatarian. He moved to the Phillipines and only ate Durian (look it up). He was my first glimpse at the "spiritual" > alt light pipeline.

[-] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 2 points 11 months ago

Only durian? What a fucking monster.

[-] roldyclark@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago

Legit everyday posting videos of him slopping up a whole fruit. It was disgusting.

[-] nxfsi@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

The next Steve Jobs, everyone

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