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Just saw the notification for this in my Youtube Studio. For now it seems as if this setting is turned off by default, but for anyone like myself who uploads videos to Youtube, I recommend checking that they don't decide to toggle this on for you in the future.

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[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 86 points 4 days ago (1 children)

As if companies aren't scraping all of it anyway.

[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 15 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Any company that respects copyright is being left in the dust by China

[–] underisk@lemmy.ml 40 points 4 days ago (2 children)

it's not as though companies in the US are "respecting copyrights" with AI, so idk why you think that's unique to China.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 6 points 3 days ago

Foreigners scary, duh.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -3 points 3 days ago

China Bad, though.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 4 days ago

Copyright doesn't prevent this, FYI

[–] Skipcast@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

And everyone else

[–] L0rdMathias@sh.itjust.works 56 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Coincidentally, Google just like two days ago revealed their new text-to-video AI model that somehow is leaps and bounds above the rest of the competition they attribute to better training data. How weird. Coincidentally weird, of course.

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 26 points 4 days ago

They’re not a third-party! Loophole!

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago

All video generation models are heavily trained on YouTube. YouTube and Hollywood are essentially the only datasets.

[–] Teils13@lemmy.eco.br 10 points 4 days ago (2 children)

It's going to be fun navigating Youtube in the future when 95% of it is robotic videos with 95% AI comments below to match.

Honestly, I wish it was the other way around, a video-to-text service that writes a good synthesis, a complete transliteration with formating, or even an expanded version, with screenshoot images if deemed necessary. So many videos could be turned into nice essays and commentary.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

I despise seeing an interesting topic or attention grabbing question only for it to be a 20-30 minute shit heap.

[–] fnrir@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

EDIT: Wrong comment. Sorry

[–] sudoku@programming.dev 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

they can just bury your channel and never promote it if you don't accept, right?

[–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago

Don't worry. This is just third party AIs. Google's AIs will still be trained on them without your permission.

[–] asudox@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 3 days ago

Yeah, third party companies. Google is still allowed to train their AI on them.

[–] thann@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

The youtube videos have already been used to train AI. MKBHD proved it when sora crapped out his own plant in a generated "tech video". The question is whether google allowed it or not.

[–] Sparky@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Guess which option will be set to off by users, which youtube will make the default to "on", and then entirely remove the button when users adapt to turning it off.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago

Surprisingly, it is actually being deployed with opt-out being the default.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 days ago

For once, they actually implemented a new "feature" as opt-in, rather than opt-out.

[–] smokebuddy 23 points 4 days ago

Imagine companies using YouTube videos to train their AI customer service reps. You call in, and for a while think you're having a conversation with a person, but weirdly every minute and a half or so it's just randomly peppered with that metal gear solid alert sound, the inevitable waowwww sound effect, Michael Scott and Dr. Evil soundboard clips, then when you start getting suspicious that it may not actually be a real human on the other line they randomly go on an ad read for hellofresh out of nowhere

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago

Me: "I should upload a series of daily videos where I speak exclusively jibberish, while doing insane movements/"dances"

"USHNXMBXSGJLOCXRH OJCSSIKBFHHFDUKFSYKM TKJFSTJVDDJVCDIBCF"

meanwhile doing hip thrusts and cartwheels simutaniously while my neighbor below bangs on their ceiling with a broom

[–] thebestaquaman@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago

Looking at the general quality of YouTube videos, and the expected demographic of people that would select this option, this looks like a recipe for creating the most conspiracy-theory-oriented AI ever created.

[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 10 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I upload unstructured noise. Good fucking luck AI scum.

[–] Womble@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Gosh you've certainly got them there, no way they could spot that and its bound to ruin their whole model with that 0.00001% of input it represents.

[–] potatopotato@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Would nose or ai generated slop with ai generated titles do more damage to the model?

[–] Quik@infosec.pub 2 points 4 days ago

Both could be filtered out in theory (which they should do if they were smart, because amount of training data matters way less than quality or training data), but filtering AI created slop is harder, especially if you just slightly modify it.

[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I don't do it to mess with them I just assume it would

[–] VeganCheesecake@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Now I'm curious - why do you upload unstructured noise?

[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

and I'm going to throw away this perfectly good marketing opportunity to point you at the noise music rabbit hole

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svuRSD1zWx8

Hmh, interesting. Dunno whether it'll make the casual listening playlist, but I've been to some hardcore bands that didn't sound that different.

[–] Humanius@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I have a YouTube channel as well, and also got notified about this.
The setting is disabled by default, so I don't have a particularly large problem with it. But that might also be because I'm in the EU.

[–] BigDaddySlim@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Surprisingly I'm in the US and it's off by default, at least for now. They'll toggle it on then claim it was an accident after they make a couple billion dollars.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Its not surprising. Youtube now has standing to sue other models for scrapping their information while also making it exclusive to third party consent - there is no toggle visible for google using to model ai.

This is them making it explicit that only they can use youtube, especially given how it has shown to be a great asset in putting them ahead with the text to video.

it's awful but thankfully it looks like it's opt in not opt out.

[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I don't upload YouTube videos so I'm unsure about the logistics of settings for videos. Do you get these options on videos already uploaded or is this only an option when first uploaded? Is this for the whole channel or video specific? Just curious how it works. Regardless if they ever decide to turn it on by default that would mean YouTubers would have to go through hundreds of videos and turn it off individually unless it's a channel wide setting kinda thing.

Edit: Just noticed it's under channel settings so I guess that's a good thing. If it was video specific that would be just plain evil. I guess I shouldn't give them ideas...

[–] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 3 points 4 days ago

You know as a fact that they probably rolled out the feature.and then turned it on for every single uploaded video that ever existed in the platform before the rollout.

[–] humble_pete_digger@lemm.ee 3 points 4 days ago

Pure cancer