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[–] FishLake@lemmygrad.ml 50 points 6 months ago (3 children)

In this story, Superman is the antagonist, go figure, and the world is saved by the benevolent capitalist Lex Luthor, who uses the ultimate liberal move (a strongly worded letter) to beat Superman, which ushers in a golden age that ends in the destruction of Earth. Kind of an unintentional self-own.

Also the Batman of this universe is coded as an anarchist and has a tattered American flag hung in his Siberian batcave, like all anarchists.

[–] KrasMazov@lemmygrad.ml 38 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Some stuff is really bad in this comic, like how Lex out of nowhere managed to "fix" capitalism and how the ending says you have to combine both capitalism and communism lmao.

The movie is even worse having Superman kill Stalin because Gulag.

That being said, fuck does it have an amazing artstyle, aesthetic and some good moments. If only it wasn't so lib.

[–] Crucible@hexbear.net 28 points 6 months ago

Don't they call it Luthorism or something, too? lmao. I choose to read this as a secret endorsement of Ghaddafi's Third Way

[–] Babs@hexbear.net 21 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Gulag? You mean hollowed out mountain full of chained up slaves, including children?

I only saw the movie, but lol.

[–] Sulvor@hexbear.net 14 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Yeah sounds like the movie was better than the comic

Only saw the movie too

[–] KrasMazov@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 6 months ago

Oh I forgot it was actually a mountain, I watched it years ago when I was still a lib. I always heard other libs say that gulags were slave labor, so I made The connection because of that.

[–] Carcharodonna@hexbear.net 21 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah I read this awhile back and it's pretty lib (in some ways). I will say, however, it does seem to do a bit with playing with the reader's expectations in interesting ways.

[–] FishLake@lemmygrad.ml 27 points 6 months ago

I actually really like Superman in the story. He’s not the modern take on “Superman but evil.” He’s more or less the same guy he normally is, just less trusting of others to put it mildly. I think the biggest difference with his personality is that he feels much more intelligent than normally is in mainline stories. Probably because Miller leans into how his upbringing, political ideology, and powers could create a fiercely smart Superman. His intellect is overall used as a foil to Luthor’s. Regardless, there’s neat moments I appreciate with Superman.

Like when Superman meets Wonder Woman, recognizes she doesn’t speak Russian, flies to some library in Stalingrad or whatever, learns to speak Ancient Greek fluently, and flies back to Wonder Woman, all in about 10 seconds.

[–] KobaCumTribute@hexbear.net 20 points 6 months ago (1 children)

who uses the ultimate liberal move (a strongly worded letter)

It wasn't even a strongly worded letter, it was a note containing what was basically just a snarky twitter post that he tricked Superman into reading, and his snark was such a cognitohazard it made Superman abandon all of his values and beliefs instantly.

[–] miz@hexbear.net 29 points 6 months ago

the working class rescues itself

[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 13 points 6 months ago (2 children)

why is his hand doing.. that 🤨🤨🤨

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 18 points 6 months ago

like everyone is doing fists why not a fist

[–] PointAndClique@hexbear.net 15 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

It's very SuBtLe horseshoe theory imagery