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submitted 8 months ago by original_reader@lemm.ee to c/linux@lemmy.ml

Do you agree? If not, what's your counter arguments?

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[-] walden@sub.wetshaving.social 81 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Why don't you type the things instead of making us watch a click-bait video?

[-] neo@lemmy.comfysnug.space 2 points 8 months ago

can't put as many ads on a short list

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[-] LastYearsPumpkin@feddit.ch 70 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

0:36 Gaming.
4:38 Microsoft Office.
5:31 Photoshop.
7:15 Ecosystem of Linux.
9:39 Hardware compatibility.

[-] H2207@lemmy.world 54 points 8 months ago
  • Proton & Lutris
  • Libreoffice & Nextcloud
  • G.I.M.P, Inkscape, Krita
  • It's cooler, more secure, more private, more trusting etc.
  • More compatible than Windows 11 that's for sure
[-] atomkarinca@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 8 months ago
  • this is 100% valid. even on wayland it's working great.
  • it took like 3 days to migrate my whole workflow to libreoffice. it's definitely doable for 95% of ms office users but when you're in a big company it gets tricky. formulas work a little bit different so you have to consider that. libreoffice is case sensitive, ms office is not.
  • this is again mostly a compatibility with other parties issue. and from what i understand photoshop has a lot of third party addons that would definitely be cumbursome to migrate.
  • i have to use windows at work and it drives me crazy. constant notifications for mundane stuff, no package manager, no sane way to keep apps up-to-date, commandline is shit.
  • even freebsd was better at handling my thinkpad. i have a wifi dongle, on linux it just works, on windows i have to install an xp app to be able to use that.
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[-] Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee 35 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

The first three boil down to, “If software that you need/want only develops for a specific OS, use that OS.”

It’s time we stop blaming linux for vendor choices.

[-] Grangle1@lemm.ee 24 points 8 months ago

Gaming: Only if you're playing one of the VERY few games that doesn't run in Linux yet, and that number continues to drop rapidly. There's plenty of tools out there to make games work well in Linux.

Office: For basic things, there's a million and one office suites that work in Linux and you can even use Office 365 Online if you really need that Microsoft Office experience/compatibility. This is only valid if you or your company need specific add-ons that don't have any equivalent in other office suites. My own employer uses these, so in that instance, yes, I do need MS Office for those. But from what I know, still not an entirely common thing, and you can still get by with Linux compatible office suites for most things.

Photoshop: I don't work with images, but from what I understand this one has some validity, comparing the tools available in Photoshop vs the GIMP or other drawing tools. But that's just if you're doing some really advanced image editing.

Ecosystem: if this is just referring to the fact that most people don't use Linux, there are plenty of FOSS programs that work in both Windows and Linux and very few common file types that aren't mutually compatible.

Hardware: another instance that has greatly improved over time, and there hasn't been anything in years that I haven't had "just work" by plugging it in. If the proprietary drivers don't install, there's probably an open source driver out there to get your hardware running. Will admit that in some instances features may be more limited, depending on what the drivers will be able to do, but as I mentioned that's really getting better almost daily.

[-] neo@lemmy.comfysnug.space 2 points 8 months ago

Out of this list, Photoshop is really the only main thing blocking people, unless they play anticheat-ridden games the likes of Destiny 2, who are outright linux-hostile.

[-] hiddengoat@kbin.social 1 points 8 months ago

You don't have to be doing advanced work to notice the difference between GIMP and Photoshop. Working in GIMP is painful. Working in Photoshop is also painful, but at least you know your files will work with everyone else.

Try some audio hardware. Linux is still a fucking wasteland when it comes to that.

[-] phx@lemmy.ca 15 points 8 months ago

Gaming... yeah it's not like there's a dedicated portable hardware device for gaming that runs on Linux by default.

MS Office, well it's literally a Microsoft product so yeah, though O365 does work.

Photoshop I haven't tried in years to run on Linux but I wish haven't bothered with Photoshop in years period so...

[-] Elkenders@feddit.uk 4 points 8 months ago

He does counter with Gimp tbf.

[-] H2207@lemmy.world 24 points 8 months ago

Everyone should use Linux, it's just whether or not they can use Linux.

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[-] GustavoM@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago

tl;dw: "If it does not deliver the exact same experience as Windows = don't bother."

Yeah....no.

t. Have 0 issues with the mentioned "issues" in the video. I use arch btw. :^)

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[-] Sterben@lemmy.ml 11 points 8 months ago

I started my gaming experience (PC) with Linux. So I disagree.

[-] original_reader@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago

Without knowing what you play, how many games would you say are as easy to install as under Windows and how many needed some additional encouragement?

[-] Sterben@lemmy.ml 4 points 8 months ago

Thanks for asking.

I am a very casual gamer, and at the beginning I might have struggled a bit with all the mechanics of Proton, Lutris etc etc.

When I look for games I usually double check on ProtonDB, if there is any fix to be applied. For this reason, I can say 95% of MY games are just install and play.

The only game I had a problem with was Skyrim, which needed a FPS limiter to avoid glitching at the beginning.

[-] Malgas@beehaw.org 1 points 8 months ago

Skyrim, which needed a FPS limiter to avoid glitching at the beginning.

And the opening of Skyrim has been known to glitch out on Windows, too.

[-] moody@lemmings.world 4 points 8 months ago

Nowadays, with Steam, most games are just install-and-play. For non-Steam games, Lutris does a good job of handling the tedium, though it is an extra step vs installing on Windows. Other marketplaces/launchers are generally covered by some third-party alternative that has most of the relevant functionality.

So far, I haven't had any issues with any purchased games under Linux. If it doesn't run as-is after installing, it's just been a question of choosing Proton in a drop-down menu. I've been Linux-only for about two years now, and gaming used to be the only thing that kept me locked into Windows. That said, there are games that won't run at all under Linux, often due to anti-cheat software.

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[-] neo@lemmy.comfysnug.space 4 points 8 months ago

Let me guess: Adobe, Microsoft Office, "gaming", It's weird/different, I don't like it.

I am not going to watch this video.

[-] TrojanHam@sh.itjust.works 4 points 8 months ago

These videos exist for monetization purposes.

Does anyone know if one where to view videos through Piped, NewPipe, FreeTube, etc the view would count towards engagement?

[-] terminhell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 8 months ago

Right tool for the job. I was once a a nix fanboy in the beginning. Now, I don't really care. If I legitimately think it suits a particular issue or use-case I'll suggest it. But I also work for an MSP that, well, focuses on a lot of Microsoft services.

There are just things each environment has pros and cons for.

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