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[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 2 points 5 minutes ago

At a beach restaurant the other night I kept hearing a loud American voice cut across all conversation, going on and on about “AI” and how it would get into all human “workflows” (new buzzword?). His confidence and loudness was only matched by his obvious lack of understanding of how LLMs actually work.

[–] ssfckdt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

So you're saying we wont have any crowdsourced blockchain Web 2.0 AIs?

[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 2 points 25 minutes ago

Please, stay with the time. We're at Web 6.0 already.

[–] dantheclamman@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

The drones doing airstrikes might!

[–] nroth@lemmy.world 34 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

"Built to do my art and writing so I can do my laundry and dishes" -- Embodied agents is where the real value is. The chatbots are just fancy tech demos that folks started selling because people were buying.

[–] bradd@lemmy.world 9 points 9 hours ago

Eh, my best coworker is an LLM. Full of shit, like the rest of them, but always available and willing to help out.

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[–] 2pt_perversion@lemmy.world 62 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (13 children)

There is this seeming need to discredit AI from some people that goes overboard. Some friends and family who have never really used LLMs outside of Google search feel compelled to tell me how bad it is.

But generative AIs are really good at tasks I wouldn't have imagined a computer doing just a few year ago. Even if they plateaued in place where they are right now it would lead to major shakeups in humanity's current workflow. It's not just hype.

The part that is over hyped is companies trying to jump the gun and wholesale replace workers with unproven AI substitutes. And of course the companies who try to shove AI where it doesn't really fit, like AI enabled fridges and toasters.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 1 points 7 minutes ago

Like what outcome?

I have seen gains on cell detection, but it's "just" a bit better.

[–] ssfckdt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 11 hours ago

This is easy to say about the output of AIs.... if you don't check their work.

Alas, checking for accuracy these days seems to be considered old fogey stuff.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 58 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

The part that is over hyped is companies trying to jump the gun and wholesale replace workers with unproven AI substitutes. And of course the companies who try to shove AI where it doesn't really fit, like AI enabled fridges and toasters.

This is literally the hype. This is the hype that is dying and needs to die. Because generative AI is a tool with fairly specific uses. But it is being marketed by literally everyone who has it as General AI that can "DO ALL THE THINGS!" which it's not and never will be.

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[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 17 points 16 hours ago (17 children)

Computers have always been good at pattern recognition. This isn't new. LLM are not a type of actual AI. They are programs capable of recognizing patterns and Loosely reproducing them in semi randomized ways. The reason these so-called generative AI Solutions have trouble generating the right number of fingers. Is not only because they have no idea how many fingers a person is supposed to have. They have no idea what a finger is.

The same goes for code completion. They will just generate something that fills the pattern they're told to look for. It doesn't matter if it's right or wrong. Because they have no concept of what is right or wrong Beyond fitting the pattern. Not to mention that we've had code completion software for over a decade at this point. Llms do it less efficiently and less reliably. The only upside of them is that sometimes they can recognize and suggest a pattern that those programming the other coding helpers might have missed. Outside of that. Such as generating act like whole blocks of code or even entire programs. You can't even get an llm to reliably spit out a hello world program.

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[–] sudneo@lemm.ee 35 points 18 hours ago (18 children)

Even if they plateaued in place where they are right now it would lead to major shakeups in humanity's current workflow

Like which one? Because it's now 2 years we have chatGPT and already quite a lot of (good?) models. Which shakeup do you think is happening or going to happen?

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[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 5 points 11 hours ago

oh wow who would have guessed that business consultancy companies are generally built on top of bullshitting about things which you dont really have a grasp on

[–] computerscientistII@lemm.ee 7 points 13 hours ago (7 children)

I saved a lot of time due to ChatGPT. Need to sign up some of my pupils for a competition by uploading their data in a csv-File to some plattform? Just copy and paste their data into chsatgpt and prompt it to create the file. The boss (headmaster) wants some reasoning why I need some paid time for certain projects? Let ChatGPT do the reasoning. Need some exercises for one of my classes that doesn't really come to grips with while-loops? let ChatGPT create those exercises (some smartasses will of course have ChatGPT then solve those exercises). The list goes on...

[–] satans_methpipe@lemmy.world 4 points 49 minutes ago

You are an asshole if you're uploading student data to a mining operation.

[–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 10 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Just copy and paste [student personal data] into [3rd parties database]

Yeah, that's a problem, especially in Europe. Im unsure about US, but it's definitely a breach of GDPR.

[–] solstice@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago

ChatGPT is basically like a really good intern, and I use it heavily that way. I run literally every email through it and say "respond to so and so, say xyz" and then maybe a little refining, copy paste, done.

The other day, my boss sent me an excel file with a shitload of data in it that he wanted me to analyze some such way. I just copy pasted it into gpt and asked it, and it spit out the correct response. Then my boss asked me to do something else that required a bit of excel finagling that I didn't really know how to do, so i asked gpt, and it told me the formula, which worked immediately first try.

So basically it helps me accomplish tasks in seconds that previously would've taken hours. If anything, I think markets are currently undervalued, because remarkably, fucking NONE of my colleagues or friends are using it at all yet. Once there's widespread adoption, which will pretty much have to happen if anyone wants to stay competitive once it gains more traction, look out...

[–] ssfckdt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 11 hours ago

Yeah, and Wikipedia is one of the most useful sites on the net, but it didn't exactly result in the entire web becoming crowdsourced.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

Those pupils will really thank you when they grow up and there isn't enough fresh water because all the data centres are using it up far faster than it can be replenished.

https://utulsa.edu/news/data-centers-draining-resources-in-water-stressed-communities/

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