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[–] praise_idleness@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Video is from aljazeera

where this claim started. Just saying.

[–] Dogyote@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I've been reading their articles for years and haven't noticed false information or any significant bias. Care to explain your position?

[–] TCBloo@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Al Jazeera is Qatari state media. The Qatari government has close ties to Hamas, so there is significant bias.

[–] Dogyote@slrpnk.net -2 points 1 year ago

The first and second statements are true, but I'm unconvinced of your conclusion. Even if they are biased, the video analysis appears to be legit.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So the video isn’t real?

[–] praise_idleness@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The video claims that that specific missile didn't cause the explosion. That is not mutually exclusive to IDF's claim of failed rocket launch.

Watch about around 15 seconds of this video. Failed launch can look very different from normal missile attacks. Their claim, whether true or not, has very little real evidence and jumps to conclusion.

Also worth noting that aljazeera is run by Quatari government.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Did you just link a video from Israeli Defense Forces, while denigrating Al Jazeera for being state media? The irony is palpable.

[–] Dogyote@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Dude, that exact missile shown in your video "misfiring" was in the Al Jazeera video. In the latter, they show how that missile was intercepted by an iron dome missle and was very much blown apart. Perhaps by some crazy chance the warhead remained intact and just fell into the hospital parking lot and exploded, which seems very unlikely, although possible. So with this data, I'd bet that whatever exploded at the hospital wasn't a missile or part of a missile. Sooo what was it?

[–] Dogyote@slrpnk.net 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Edit 2 (a day later): AP did their own video analysis and came to slightly different conclusions: https://lemmy.world/post/7113210

Tl;dw: Decent video evidence shows that the rocket the IDF claims hit the hospital was in fact intercepted and destroyed by the iron dome missle defense system. Thus it's unlikely the hospital was hit by an errant missle fired by Hamas or other Palestinian groups.

Edit 1: If there was another missile, wouldn't it be seen in the video like the other missiles?

[–] luthis@lemmy.nz 12 points 1 year ago

Second part should state: thus its unlikely that the rocket in the video was the one that landed next to the hospital

[–] Borkingheck@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Wouldn't it be just for that missile?

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Still doesn’t seem like a bomb given the impact crater in the parking lot was fairly superficial.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago

It was a “knock” dummy missile that made the cars explode. Source: god told me. /s