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    [–] unknown1234_5@kbin.earth 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

    ubuntu is an excellent base, but there's no reason to use it over other distros based on it. it does nothing better than others and forces snaps on you to the point of not even having flatpak installed by default unlike almost every other distro that is even remotely modern.

    [–] lengau@midwest.social 1 points 16 hours ago

    Meh, I tend to install snap on the non-Ubuntu distros I use. I also think it does a lot of things better, namely "not making me think about my OS when I don't want to." Of course, Kubuntu does that better than Ubuntu does.

    [–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago

    The other four distros they use are Lubuntu, Xubuntu, Gobuntu and Mythbuntu.

    [–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 7 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

    Nothing wrong with Ubuntu.

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    [–] endeavor@sopuli.xyz 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Ubutu sucks really bad. I installed it checks notes 17 years ago and I didn't even get internet running out of the box. Fedora 41 is just so much better and I can't see how anyone can argue with that.

    [–] lengau@midwest.social 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Yes, Fedora 41 is undoubtedly better than a 17 year old version of Ubuntu.

    [–] sharpratchet@lemmy.world 17 points 22 hours ago

    I believe that was the joke

    [–] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

    I like Ubuntu, use it as my main laptop os, and main server's os for a production system that's been upgraded through 3 LTS versions without issue. Three.

    I don't think windows can do that, at all.

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    [–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Everything I don't like is Reddit

    [–] horse_battery_staple@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)
    [–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

    Not sure yet but the fact that the only word your username doesn't contain is "correct" I'm pretty suspicious already... /s

    There's no way I'd survive lemmy with the first word being correct in my username so I had to truncate the xkcd password.

    [–] merci3@lemmy.world 129 points 1 day ago (7 children)

    Canonical deserves most of the critics they get.

    Ubuntu users on the other hand don't deserve even the slight amount of critic they get for just.. Using Ubuntu. like, at least they use Linux, we should be encouraging them to keep using it.

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    [–] lelgenio@lemmy.ml 72 points 1 day ago (8 children)

    Q: what does apt install firefox do? Surely it uses apt to install Firefox, right???? A: The command gets highjacked by snap, which promptly crashed and hangs.

    Ran into this just a few hours ago, made the mistake of suggesting Ubuntu as a sane default (instead of debian or something else), never making that mistake again hopefully.

    [–] Allero 29 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (8 children)

    Mint fixes that. Based on Ubuntu, it intentionally disables Snap, and all apt commands actually use apt.

    Or yes, just straight up use Debian if you don't mind older apps outside Flatpaks.

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    [–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

    I personally think Ubuntu sucks, thats why I always reccomend other distros to people starting :3

    Productivity: Debian (you dont need up to date packages if all you do is edit documents)

    Gaming: Pop_OS (especially when Cosmic releases)

    [–] trslim@pawb.social 13 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    I use Kubuntu. No complaints here. Im also not super well versed in linux and my husband installed it for me so that I had something that was well supported for gaming and streaming/vtubing.

    (I dont remember what he uses, he switches it weekly)

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    [–] pH3ra@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 day ago (15 children)

    Well Ubuntu os not that bad if you just stick to the ecosystem. I mean... Not everyone... Pffft... Wants to... HmmHMpf... Babysit... Ahahahah I can't...

    Just install Mint

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    [–] ptz@dubvee.org 33 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    Yeah, I don't get the hate and intentional division being sowed there.

    I'm not a fan of Ubuntu since they went all Thanos Snap (the final straw was replacing deb packages in apt with snap stubs), but I can applaud that they're using Linux.

    Just seems like low effort, pointless gatekeeping to me.

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    [–] Aelis@lemm.ee 21 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    I get the annoyance around tribalism/elitism, some people in other posts pointed out the fact that silly dramas and bad/dumb linux takes scares out new users but tbh I feel more confortable with a vocal community, even a silly one. Feels healthier and more alive to me than a mute and apathetic one.

    If something goes wrong, if something displeases someone we will hear about it, people will get angry, at the worst we get a nice entertainment to watch and a good laugh, at the very best it leads us to some nice changes.

    It's something I grew to like about Linux, even the silliness of it all, even how you can't really tell if people are dead serious or not about the stupidest things.

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    [–] theluckyone@discuss.online 11 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    I've used Gentoo on my main desktop for decades.

    Anything else in the house gets Kubuntu on it, 'cause ain't nobody got time for that.

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    [–] SitD@lemy.lol 25 points 1 day ago (5 children)

    i started with Ubuntu. i think it's fair to respect the distro that works towards getting any rando started

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    [–] mlg@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

    Yeah no it does suck it made me think the Linux experience was at least 3x worse before I tried another distro.

    And not just a DE thing, every part of the distro feels like it was slapped on without actually thinking of the consequences.

    • netplan
    • apt
    • default systemd dependencies
    • ubuntu GNOME
    • snap
    • ubuntu pro
    • cloudinit conf

    You can find forums and docs from as old as Fedora 11 that's still relevant yet Ubuntu utterly fails to keep consistency across a single version update because they changed something that's only mentioned in the changelog.

    Every downstream of Ubuntu is essentially focused on removing all the BS the upstream has so you can use your computer without something breaking like it's ~~Arch~~ an overused meme about Arch.

    There is no right answer to the correct distro, only a wrong answer, and that is Ubuntu because practically anything else including its downstreams like LM are better for you as a user.

    [–] semperverus@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

    without something breaking like its arch

    I have had seven full-system failures across the last two decades using Ubuntu that could not easily be troubleshooted and fixed.

    I have had exactly zero with Arch.

    Take that as you will.

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    [–] noodles@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    My experience with Ubuntu was filled with bugs and i hated snaps, suggested it to a friend and installed it for him and he kept getting errors and bugs everywhere for some reason, he had the impression that linux is a buggy mess. I'm not suggesting ubuntu to a new user ever again, fedora is the way to go, i just wished they had nvidia drivers in their repos it would have made it easier for new users

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    [–] CaptainBasculin@lemmy.ml 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    It's better than Windows at least.

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