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[–] AidsKitty@lemmy.world 10 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

The only way to create a viable third party is to vote for them. America needs a third choice.

[–] capt_wolf@lemmy.world 5 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Wrong, you create a viable third choice through effective, bold, and charismatic leadership and an incredibly strong marketing campaign. Our third parties seem happy to pull the outliers and disillusioned voting population, but you won't win an election with that.

The only way we're getting an actual third choice is by making something that's equal to or bigger in presence to our primary parties in terms of media representation and spectacle. None of the ones that exist today are pulling that off any time soon.

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 6 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

Third parties fuck off for 3.5 years, show up for the general asking why nobody takes them seriously, whine through the election, and disappear again. Over and over and over. It’s pitiful.

Run for local office if you’re serious, third parties. At least the libertarian party actually goes for them, that’s literally the only good thing I can say about them: they’re the only third party that puts in work all year every year.

[–] dx1@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (6 children)

This talking point again. What are you accusing them of doing or not doing - specifically? What should political parties do in between elections? What are they doing that you have researched? What are you claiming that they haven't done? What does "asking why nobody takes them seriously" mean? Who asked this, and when? What does it mean to "whine through the election" - pointing out how the two main parties are a genocidal machine? Is that "whining"? Is that accurate, insightful political critique? I would frame it as the latter. Why are are you framing it as the former? What is your axe to grind here? Why are you speaking with such bias?

For reference:

GPUS publishes a semi-annual list of Greens in elected office[1] and an annual list of Green elections & winners by year[2] and by state.[3]

As of the November 7, 2023 elections, at least 142 Greens hold elected office.[4] In these elections, Greens won 42 out of 81 local races for county, municipal, education and special districts.[5] Since 1986, at least 1439 Greens have won election.[6]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Green_politicians_who_have_held_office_in_the_United_States

Have you ever visited this page?

Any insight into how lobbies actually fight to exclude politicians that upset corrupt political norms? Look what happened to Cori Bush this past election. That's a Democrat and they still abandoned her. How does the Green Party fight against that kind of influence. Clearly that needs actual grassroots, popular support. Have you offered any? How much time in your life have you actually dedicated to exposing these kinds of machinations and doing things like canvassing for politicians? Zero? You just sit on social media and talk trash about the only people trying to accomplish something?

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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 39 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (33 children)

"Hey, let's vote for a candidate who literally cannot win from a party that hasn't done the necessary work to become nationally viable because I don't want to be part of the two party problem even though if we do so it will guarantee that a felon rapist who incited an insurrection, stripped women of a human right, and illegally attempted to overturn an election will win." - Dipshit 3rd Party Voters

Just as stupid as Trump supporters, as far as I'm concerned.

Well, they got what we told them they'd be getting. Why aren't they celebrating?

[–] recreationalcatheter@lemm.ee -1 points 9 hours ago

Thanks for helping Trump win! Palestine is so saved. This whole thing wasn't about you feeling morally superior at all.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (18 children)

But you're SUPPORTING GENOCIDE when you vote for the candidate most likely to get the fewest people killed! While the people of Palestine are about to be annihilated, my own right to marry is about to be taken away, and all of my trans friends are going to lose access to the drugs that keep them from killing themselves, I can rest easy knowing that I didn't engage with the system at all

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[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 59 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (16 children)

The election is over, did you expect them to keep telling you to vote 3rd party when there is no election to vote for them in? Perhaps you noticed that all the "Vote Harris" commercials stopped too?

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[–] multifariace@lemmy.world 6 points 21 hours ago

I don't remember third party proponents. I remember the depression and realization that both parties continue to work hard to make this country suck more.

[–] raynethackery@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I think the real problem was those that stayed home. Turnout wasn't great.

[–] Iceman@lemmy.world 7 points 22 hours ago

Ofc it was, but that having a foot in reality is not needed when hunting for scapegoats.

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[–] Cool_Name@lemm.ee 2 points 17 hours ago

My city has a new Marxist Leninist party that has started up after the election. So no they aren't gone, but they are still harebrained.

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