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The election is over, did you expect them to keep telling you to vote 3rd party when there is no election to vote for them in? Perhaps you noticed that all the "Vote Harris" commercials stopped too?
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I don't remember third party proponents. I remember the depression and realization that both parties continue to work hard to make this country suck more.
I think the real problem was those that stayed home. Turnout wasn't great.
Ofc it was, but that having a foot in reality is not needed when hunting for scapegoats.
The real problem is the Democratic party has stopped any good candidate from advancing. It's a party problem, nothing else
The problem is the actual voting system. First Past the Post actively punishes Third Party voters. Which leaves us with a choice between the status quo and a party that wants to make shit worse.
Now, the status quo isn't all that good, but is distinctly better than the alternative. But that's it.
To get something actually better, we need to change the voting system itself. Ordinal voting systems always result in some form of two party dominance. So we need something different. A Cardinal voting system.
There are two main choices. Approval, which has been used off and on in real world elections for at least a thousand years. Most notably for the election of the Pope for several centuries before the process was corrupted by wealth and nepotism.
The other option is STAR, a voting system designed in 2014 meant to address the problems with other voting systems.
Yes, and if Democrats continue to refuse to understand why, they'll continue to lose. This meme is a sterling example of that refusal. Third-party voters didn't shift the election outcome. (If anything, there were more votes for right-wing third parties than left-wing third parties.) Polls show that Gaza was simply not a major factor, either. (The exception might be Michigan, but with 15 electoral votes, that wouldn't have changed the ultimate outcome.)
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oMg WhErE dId ThEy gO????
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My city has a new Marxist Leninist party that has started up after the election. So no they aren't gone, but they are still harebrained.