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[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 78 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

I love how ambiguous they're being, because "lawmakers are proposing regulations that protect consumers from our invasive surveillance which maintains our monopoly on advertising so we can charge you more money" just doesn't have that same ring to it.

[–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 138 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hahahahaha, damn Google.

"Help us prevent government from stopping us from being bad actors".

[–] tjoa@feddit.org 44 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 40 points 19 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 16 hours ago

Oh that’s perfect

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 19 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

This is the same route they take when saying social media can’t be regulated. Small Businesses.

[–] SirQuackTheDuck@lemmy.world 5 points 9 hours ago

Think of the Small Business is the corporate equivalent of the Think of the Kids fallacy

[–] Hegar@fedia.io 54 points 1 day ago

Google encourages "protecting your business against costly state regulations"

Just remove the 'y' from 'your' and the sentence goes from lie to truth.

[–] JoshuaBrusque@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Add onto the pile of no Facebook, no Amazon, no Microsoft, no Apple.

[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

you mean no GAFAM

or no GAMAM now? no MMAGA? NO MMAGA!

NO MMAGA 🙃

[–] turkalino@lemmy.yachts 2 points 14 hours ago

I prefer MANGA - Meta, Apple, Netflix, Google, Amazon

[–] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 17 points 1 day ago

Haha, a strong state would benefit small businesses more

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think there's some confusion over the intent here.

Lawmakers in state capitals across the country [...]

So based on this, Google is using "state" here to mean a US state and not the more general meaning of government.

For large corporations like Google, each state having its own local regulations (e.g. privacy regulations such as CCPA) is expensive because they have to account for different rules in different places, which means whole teams of legal experts just to be familiar with each state's regulations and interpret what they mean for operating the business.

It's also problematic in a technical sense, because on the internet how do you know if a particular user is a legal resident of Texas or Colorado or New Hampshire, and would even knowing that be a violation of their privacy rights?

So the intent here is to push federal regulation over state regulation, because it makes the legal and technical problems simpler.

Ultimately this is an argument against the way the Republican party does things, where they reject federal regulations saying that the states should be allowed to regulate themselves and that federal regulation is an overreach. This leads to weaker protections for citizens and weaker enforcement, which is the Republican party's real intent. Every US citizen should have privacy protections, not just residents of California.

[–] Zedstrian@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

It'd be great if California's consumer privacy protections could be applied at the federal level, but as long as the Republicans retain the presidency, either house of congress, or the Supreme Court, it would either never get passed or simply get struck down and returned to the state regulatory level.

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 6 points 23 hours ago

Absolutely, that's the problem that Google is targeting here. Republicans like to claim that federal regulation is bad for businesses, but in reality it's state-level regulation that makes it harder for businesses to operate.

Not to be super pro-Google, this is purely self-interested for them. But it seems like people are interpreting this as Google being anti-regulation in general, and I don't think that's correct.

[–] adam_y@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yeah, there's a missing comma.

Don't, be evil.

There. Fixed it.

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

What could be more evil than failing to protect their big cash payoffs???

[–] palordrolap@fedia.io 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

There can't be a comma missing from a motto which is itself entirely missing. They threw it in a ditch a few years ago. (I'll be honest, I thought it had to have been at least 10 years at this point, but Wikipedia says otherwise.)

[–] adam_y@lemmy.world 4 points 23 hours ago

Yeah, it was a joke. I know.

[–] heavydust@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Protect your business against protecting people.

withgoogle.com

They are ashamed to put that fucking shit on their own domain name.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not to defend Google, but it has nothing to do with shame and everything to do with marketing.

If you read the URL as a sentence supportsmallbiz.withgoogle.com = Support Small Biz With Google

[–] heavydust@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They could have done smallbizzwith.google.com but are hiding it and they will pretend that it doesn't exist once they shut down the site. We've seen this already a few time at various companies.

[–] Chozo@fedia.io 4 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

How is that any more hidden? Unless you already know the subdomain in the first place, the domain doesn't really make much difference.

[–] Allero 1 points 11 hours ago

A bit more plausible deniability