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I don't know if I'm going crazy but looking at the current situation in the world ... please tell me that I'm overexagurating

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[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (9 children)

I am personally looking for a few things that will concern me about escalation:

  • Japan and Finland making active land claims to Russia (actively reoccupying disputed land with troops)

  • Europe putting peace keepers in Western Ukraine (which will create a casus belli for war with Russia), specifically France and the UK. I mean, Poland as well, but if Poland says they are putting peacekeeping troops in Ukraine, Russia should either back off or assume war.

  • South Korean troops in Ukraine. (Ridiculous given their current chaos, but stranger things have happened in the last year).

Other than that, the russian frog has been very well boiled for 3 years. Even China has probably gone back to the drawing board on a taiwan invasion, and added a delay until 10 millions drones are available.

I do have concerns trump will pull the us back in europe, making the second item above possible if not likely. The first trump presidency shook us primacy in europe, and the second may see it start to unravel. If europe has to take russia alone, the us should consider china a personal problem from now on (as well as any other concerns not near europe), as no one will see value in going to war with a fair-weather ally.

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Nah, there won't be WW3. Instead we get countries sabotaging each other via hacking critical infrastructure, proxy wars, propaganda, trade wars.

I doubt there will ever be a direct "hot war" between the top five nuclear powers ever again.

WW3 is not what's gonna kill people, climate change is more likely gonna be humanity's downfall.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 day ago

No thanks. Appreciate the offer though, very kind of you.

[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 35 points 2 days ago (3 children)

No. It’s bad for the economy.

[–] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 day ago

To the wealthy, volatility is opportunity. Yeah, the market will go down for a while, and later it'll go back up. Billionaires will cash in both ways.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 16 points 2 days ago (4 children)

The number one thing I've learned through the last several decades is that if it's bad for the economy, no one will do it. Greed is the number one driver of everything right now. Maybe that will change, but I doubt it. Look at all the positive progress we try to make, it's stopped the second anyone rich would lose any money.

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[–] ReanuKeeves@lemm.ee 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

You could not be more wrong

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[–] Wes4Humanity@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago

So, WW3 won't happen until the oligarchy says it's time. Not sure why now would be the time, but I suppose it could be. There's like a billion people in the world making a dollar a day, a few billion people only making a few dollars a day... That's a few billion dollars per day the oligarchy almost certainly thinks belongs in their pocket instead. So I could see them continuing to squeeze the world for every last drop of wealth, which I think will cause unrest in a lot of places. Add climate change to that and I think things just get bad everywhere for most people. Obviously the oligarchy will just go to their islands, yachts, bunkers until a few billion are dead and they can pop back out with their private armies ready to "save" the world.

A lot of people think they need us to buy their trinkets, but the entire consumer middle class is only like 100 years old, and I think was only designed to keep us distracted while they plundered the world. Now that a small handful of people own everything, and soon enough robots and AI will replace most human labor, it's mission accomplished and we can go back to feudalism where they are gods and everyone else is slaves.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 27 points 2 days ago

The situation today is nowhere near as bad as the Cold War.

Think of it this way. All of the 0.01%ers in china, USA and Russia share the same tastes and values. Think any of them are really hot to blow up their nice places on the Rivera?

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I've been expecting WW3 since 1983.

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[–] chaosCruiser@futurology.today 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

In 2001 there was that 9/11 thing and it sounded like WW3 had just started. Turns out, it didn't. Well, lots of things did happen as a result of it, but WW3 wasn't one of them. Soon after that, USA was involved in a number of wars in the middle east and it felt like WW3 had just started. Again, it didn't. Some time around 2010s the tension between North Korea and South Korea was getting pretty intense, and a friend of mine started talking WW3... As usual, WW3 didn't start.

At the moment, the situation in Ukraine feels just like all the other major incidents, but we'll see how it works out. If you expose your mind to tabloid journalism, it begins to feel like the entire world is about to explode. History has a tendency of repeating itself, so I suggest reading about the things that lead to WW1 and WW2. Once, you've done that, you'll begin to pay attention to certain signs and start ignoring most of the nonsense tabloids keep writing about.

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

That's just survivorship bias, you didn't live through the worlds where all those things escalated into flat out war, you dimension skipping hippie.

[–] chaosCruiser@futurology.today 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I’m a very picky hippie when it comes to dimensions.

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[–] SparrowHawk@feddit.it 10 points 2 days ago (22 children)

I think that the true world war 3 will not be nations against nations, but citizens against their own nations. The stage is set for an actual paradigm shift or system annihilation. We will not support civilization if it doesn't change, either the people destroy the pyramid or the pyramid will destroy the world.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 0 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Paint me a picture of what you think that looks like. Here's my painting: Everybody marches on their capitals, everyone gets gunned down with 30mm cannonfire, the Americans are gunned down holding pistols and rifles everyone else is gunned down holding pitchforks and torches.

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[–] Hexadecimalkink@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

I think it il depend on the military industrial complex in the USA and whether they decide to off Trump or not. If Trump goes isolationist then they'll probably merc him. If he invades Panama and starts a hot war with Iran then there probably won't be a world war (ironically). If China invades Taiwan and the US blinks then there won't be a world war. If the US attacks China for taking over Taiwan then we'll be in a world war.

[–] iii@mander.xyz 12 points 2 days ago

It's reminiscent of the cold war.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 days ago

According to the Science and Security Board of the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, we are closer to nuclear war now than ever in history. Closer than when boomers were doing school duck and cover drills.

2024 Doomsday Clock Statement: A moment of historic danger: It is still 90 seconds to midnight

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

Star Trek says that we shouldn't expect World War 3 until 2026, so we've got 1 more year to live to the fullest before then.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 days ago

Anything could happen of course, but I don't see this as a likely scenario myself. What's more likely is that we return to bloc competition similar to what we saw during the Cold War. Except this time it's going to be G7 against the BRICS.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 9 points 2 days ago (7 children)

No.

Russia (the current primary aggressor) is on the brink of a banking system collapse. It doesn't have the money to wage war on a bigger scale than it already is.

China is far more interested in trade than hostilities.

The middle east has been a tinder box for over a hundred years. I don't see it dragging outsiders into it and hopefully we have a respite coming.

Central Asia has tension between India and Pakistan, but that's nothing new. India could piss off China or the reverse, and if that kicked off the loss of life could be on a scale that would be unprecedented but still I think it wouldn't drag the west in.

The US has joined the party

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[–] folaht@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I would say world war is still years away, but if SK in your name means slovakia then comfort yourself that you might find yourself in the early BRICS block vs US empire wars, so hopefully it'll be over without too much war in your country soon.

[–] Amaterasu@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

No one in Europe would be safe in a nuclear war.

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