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[–] HighFructoseLowStand@lemm.ee 11 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Not really, US propaganda, so much as Trump propaganda.

Just about everything he's done for the past decade has shown the interests of the two are mutually exclusive.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 2 points 20 minutes ago

They're now also censoring pro-Palestine content.

[–] HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world 34 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

It was Trump's efforts that led to it being banned in the first place

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 17 points 1 hour ago

Congrats! I saved you from being punched (by me).

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 2 points 38 minutes ago

I mean Google Play did disable downloading it with a freeze warning about the ongoing issue.

Sucking up to Trump is exactly what any company would do right now if they want to ensure further existence and business. Musk and Zuck flipped even faster.

tbh I don't think it would have been that much different under Biden because he did say he wasn't interested in enforcing the ban which means he was also probably trying to negotiate TikTok to give partial ownership to someone in the USA. Either that or he lied for optics which is also nothing new lol.

[–] Letme@lemmy.world 45 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

Any TikTok user with any sense or self respect would immediately delete the app and abandon the platform

[–] amon@lemmy.world 11 points 2 hours ago

That's the neat part

[–] Zetta@mander.xyz 30 points 4 hours ago

You think too much of the average brainrotter

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 8 points 4 hours ago

many are and i have great respect for ‘em

[–] CircuitGuy@lemmy.world 25 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

The US didn't take action to block the app, Tiktok did. Maybe the government would have taken action eventually. It smells like a political plan, where someone at Tiktok agreed to block the app for 24 hours as a political favor.

I'm sure this has no connection with TikTok allegedly sponsoring Trump's inauguration party..

[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 43 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

That makes no sense on the face of it.

First of all the ban comes from the legislative, who made a law and the judiciary who decided it applied in this case.

Secondly the executive might ignore their duty to enforce rulings for a while, sure, but that's not a long term solution, and not a big achievement.

Thirdly even Biden's executive was not enforcing the ban, apparently fearing the optics. Now we have gone from Biden's executive not enforcing the ban to Trump's executive not enforcing the ban. So there was no effective change.

Tiktok is just doing some political maneuvers here. They were the ones denying access for the last 24h for the optics. Not out of respect for the court's decision.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 18 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

It's literally just China destablizing the US, same as it's been for years. It doesn't have to make sense. Weeee 🙃

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 49 minutes ago (1 children)

China or America just shooting itself in the foot with Trump?

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 1 points 47 minutes ago

Little of column A, little of column B. China's going to throw fuel on the already burning fire wherever they can.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 16 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

This has extreme “future history students will have trouble thinking people took it seriously” vibes.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 0 points 41 minutes ago

If everything goes back on tracks, they will just learn a distilled down version of the current events like I did about nazism, where nazis were just cartoon villains who did evil for the sake of evil, and never tried to justify their heinous actions. Thus they'll learn that Elon Musk was at worst mixed with way too many good ideas to completely discount him, no mention of the christian fascists, and all the anti-trans thing will either forgotten, or will just told as "was done for the sake of evil".

[–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 15 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

People don't recognize history while they are living through it. Right now we are seeing the consolidation of corporate industry with a government led by a cult of personality. One of the "true and classical" definitions of fascism. Yet, people will argue that it's not actually fascism. No matter how bad it gets, there will always be a large portion of the population who will say its not true fascism because it does not personally affect then in a way they consider fascism. There are plenty of Germans who believed that Nazi Germany did nothing wrong even after having lived through it. That's they one thing history never taught me, the absolute ignorance and denial of the majority of the population, even after things get incredibly bad and millions die.

Edit: Elon Musk did an unequivocal Nazi salute, twice, during his speech at Trumps inauguration. Just watch, somehow this still does not actually make them fascists

[–] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

There is no end to the stupidity of the human race.

[–] WhatYouNeed@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago

That quote is framed and hanging on the wall of Rupert Murdock's office.

[–] Sundiata@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago
[–] rational_lib@lemmy.world 25 points 5 hours ago

The real threat isn't China, it's dictators from any part of the globe - whether that's Xi, Putin, or Trump. Or all 3 of them, working together.

[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 16 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Anyone else think it’s oddly convenient how this happens just after Rednote jumps in popularity?

It’s clearly pro-Trump propaganda, but I also can’t help but think there’s more than one motivation going on here. People are jumping to another platform, time to remind them that TikTok is still here! Can’t risk pulling an Elon and losing all those users to an alternative.

But I’m just thinking out loud here. I don’t use TikTok or Rednote, so I don’t know how well they compare. Thoughts?

[–] Sundiata@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I think China doesn't want tiktok users to spread to rednote since they have a large domestic userbase already there, they don't want influenced americans influencing the chinese population creating influenception.

[–] homicidalrobot@lemm.ee 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

You're mistaken. Rednote updated allowing for EN->Mandarin translation for chinese native users and made the settings menu appear in english for english speaking users. The rumors you've heard about rednote bifurcating (like Douyin and TikTok) are only rumors.

It amazes me that people will form whole opinions like this with no effort, no personal investigation. You can literally use a vpn to browse it if you're worried about your data, but I'm willing to bet that you have a marketing machine in your house that you welcomed with open arms. A majority of users on every social media have already had their data sold to every conceivable database, or are young enough that they don't realize how many datapoints they're making with their electronic footprint. Think about how likely it is that using a chinese app would actually affect you in any way - we've known for years now that health insurance and healthcare companies in the US that aren't covered by the narrow scope of HIPAA are selling our information, but you're worried about vine and instagram with storefronts included? Do you even know about marvel SNAP?

[–] Sundiata@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I'm completely out of the loop, for I have a flip phone that can't even get on lemmy nor tiktok as its browser is outdated, so I'm on a pc. I appreciate the bleak outlook on what's going on though. Just yesterday, a co worker was having a problem logging into her workplace account, I told her that in order to type in capital letters she has to hold down shift for her username. She got upset and said why can't this be like a smart phone.

It's over. I accept defeat.

also you'd be amazed how many people use their phones over a pc these days.

[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 20 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (7 children)

Tankies put this one together: china, your favourite little dictatorship, is helping out your most hated almost dictatorship? How is that possible. I thought china was a chad anti usa amd imperialism state. Or maybe theyre also imperalists and just jumped on trumps dick the moment they saw they could profit from it.

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[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 65 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Hasn't even been sworn in yet, and they're already sucking him off for doing nothing.

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 6 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Jeffrey Yass, one of their larger investors, is an American and has spent millions lobbying to stop this. He is a Trump adjacent billionaire

[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 4 hours ago

I expect reports of deleting any video saying otherwise in a few days.

[–] HorreC@lemmy.world 39 points 8 hours ago (4 children)

It was so odd that they didnt mention him in their goodbye as he was the one who started that train a rolling

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 32 points 6 hours ago

Also odd that they self banned, Biden explicitly said he wasn't bothering to enforce.

So TikTok blocked themselves just to suck up to Trump.

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