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I have a close friend that I've known 20 years who became obsessed with right-wing politics. even though I'm liberal, I don't make it my entire personality and life. But anyway... I was talking to him this morning casually like friends do.

Me: "Hey man. Do you have off today for MLK day?" Friend: "No, I have to work today." Me: "Damn, sorry to hear. I have off today since it's a company holiday." Friend: "Yeah, I work for a living. Guess that's the difference me and people who live in an ivory tower." Me: "Uhh I work for a living too. Idk why you're acting like I don't?" Friend: "I didn't mean you specifically. But you’re off and I’m not so it shows that you get to relax at least. You should be able to handle the truth lol. There's no shame in admitting that I'm a harder worker than everyone else. you shouldn't be so sensitive"

Honestly, he's not unique, either. I've met so many people who are conservative, obsessed with right-wing stuff, and they're all like this. They act like they're special and the whole world is lazy, "no one wants to work anymore" attitude.

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[–] lurklurk@lemmy.world 5 points 32 minutes ago

They're sad insecure people who try to find self worth by looking down on others, which is hard work for a bottom feeder

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 15 points 3 hours ago

I notice that those enamoured by the right are-- there is no other way to put it-- insecure. We all got insecurities, but I think the right has managed to tap that and groom them.

The thing with this attitude of feeling special that they work excessively is precisely the right has groomed them to be part of something bigger. And humans, but not all, naturally yearn for social acceptance and wanting to be part of something big. These folks feel that their contribution counts for something. The right has tapped that feeling, but for sinister purpose unfortunately. In the case of your friend, it just so happens that a fake wannabe right wing university, which shall not be named, has a video imploring viewers that work is good and that it is the ultimate goal. It makes you feel special. No buddy, the only person who you make feel special is yourself for grooming individuals to be mindless workers who will not question longer hours with no extra pay.

[–] GrammarPolice@lemmy.world -2 points 24 minutes ago

There are also left wing fanatics aka...

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 19 points 4 hours ago

What the fuck is he on about? Ivory towers? It's a fucking federal holiday for Christ's sake.

[–] kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

Goodbye "friend"

[–] therealjcdenton@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 hours ago

I don't want to work lol

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

"I'd like to have time to start/spend with my family" -thats all you have to say. Too much work time collapses society.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 4 points 4 hours ago

I dont think it is specific to conservatives. People who define their identity through their political views tend to be like this, regardless of their political views.

I have experienced similiar behaviour with people who identified as leftists, anarchists, feminists as much as with people who identify as conservatives, liberals...

The annoying thing is, that you cannot respectfully disagree with them on anything anymore, because they perceive it as an attack on themselves directly.

[–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Did that actually happen?

[–] Naia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 6 hours ago

I guarantee he is projecting how little he works on others. Every accusation these people make is a confession.

And yes, even the "why do you have to make it your entire personality?" is projection. As much of a cult as maggots are, I think the only real difference is trump is too stupid to use the usual double speak politicians were using before and the base that always was out for blood ate it up. He also gave them phrases and symbols to plaster over all their stuff.

Yet they will claim someone having a single pride sticker on their car or flag outside their house is "shoving it in their face" while they drive down the road with a 2 or more flags I their car, along with countless number stickers, and a house covered in at least a half dozen flags and signs.

And no, I'm not exaggerating. I see these trucks (always a shitty truck) and houses regularly where I currently live, and I'm fleeing in a month as I'm queer and one of their targets.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 10 points 7 hours ago

Correct

It's a shame because if Conservatives would just look at who they're supporting for five seconds, instead of going "He's not a filthy librul." they'd realize they stole the Ivory Tower from themselves.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 43 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

You've got it backwards. Toxic and aggressive people become conservatives (in Anglo countries) because it serves them emotionally.

Occasionally one is too queer to successfully do that, and have to find an alternate outlet, like stanning for North Korea or something.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago

idk, I know a gay conservative. Extremely stupid and selfish. He's not even "normal gay" or whatever. He's like some caricature out of a 90's sitcom. Him and his boyfriend have the most toxic, untrusting relationship. I avoid him as much as possible.

[–] sudoer777@lemmy.ml 10 points 8 hours ago

People who deliberately ignore struggles that others outside their immediate community experience, especially ones that they cause themselves, don't deserve to be listened to

[–] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Very moist. Very toxic. Like a 20 year old mattress, saturated in bacon grease and peppered with dip-spit.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 9 points 9 hours ago

Having a work ethic is one thing. But it isn’t inherently satisfying to the ego unless you feel yours is better than others’, and lord it over them. Some people just can’t maintain their motivation without this.

This guy could learn a lot from women. The world is full of women who bust their ASS and never complain or brag or get a single second of recognition.

[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

It is good to be moist, even better than being flaky

[–] Whateley@lemm.ee 27 points 11 hours ago

Reminds me of this dipshit I saw in a Starbucks once wearing one of those anti-welfare t shirts. He spent a good 20 minutes bragging to this poor young woman working the counter about how hard of a worker he is and that people on welfare are parasites.

When she asked him what he did, he sheepishly responded that he did a few hours a week of per diem work at UPS. She just rolled her eyes and asked him if he needed anything in that "buy something or get fuck out" tone.

After he left, she started talking to another employee about how much of a tool he was. The other coworker responded that he pulls this goofy anti-welfare ranting shit to try and impress new girls and that he actually lives with his parents and collects state aid himself.

[–] Lumelore@lemmy.blahaj.zone 50 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Hate, insecurity, intolerance, and ignorance are the foundation of their ideology. I'm not proud of myself at all for this, but I got sucked into the pipeline when I was a young teen. However I am proud to say that I did fortunately manage to pull myself out of it and I'm now a socialist.

While I hate that I got sucked in, it does give me a lot of insight into why they are the way they are. They start by targeting common insecurities which they use to lure people in, and then they feed them lies while appealing to those insecurities. For example, I remember being a lonely teen and watching mgtow 🤮 videos and the gist of the videos was that if you joined their "movement" that you would get laid all the time, and of course that video was ridden with a shitload of misogyny and lies. Then from there it snowballs into more and more hatred and lies.

Conservatives are just sad, narcissistic losers who are incapable of understanding that people need to lift each other up rather than putting each other down. That's why conservatives like to brag, because they think putting others down is how they get lifted up.

Being knowledgeable is a good defence against their tactics since their lies become obvious and it quickly becomes evident that they are fools.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

Yall are in the best position to deradicalize them. And while it wasn't good you got sulked in, they were actively targeting people like you to suck you in

[–] Glent@lemmy.ca 19 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

The secret sauce at fox news is flattering dumb people, telling them they are smart. Smarter than those woke professors, doctors, scientists. "Youre a free thinker, you see right through the deep state lies, you know the real deal and dont fall for their propaganda........etc." If you can flatter a moron into thinking they are smart, you can literally program them like a manchurian candidate or robot.

[–] Jamablaya@lemmy.world -2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (2 children)

IDK, do you often act like you're way smarter than him, based on nothing but political differences, and he's getting sick of it? Just look at your story here, it's written all over it.

[–] lumpybag@reddthat.com 1 points 1 hour ago

If one actually believes in right wing ideals and not just doing it because it’s best for their wallet. They are 1000% an idiot. That would mean you believe in less freedoms, equality, and on and on and on.

Please provide me with an example where right wing ideals are making lives better? Please provide examples of other countries that are currently right winged?

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 19 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

There is no better measure of your worth to a conservative than how many hours you are willing to work in support of the 1% becoming even richer.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 4 points 7 hours ago

Hey you work hard enough and you might get a tombstone that reads "Worked really hard!" on it! Such a nice tombstone that your family gets to go in horrible debt for!

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 13 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] SoftTeeth@lemmy.world 23 points 13 hours ago

Religious conservatives are trained from childhood to unwaveringly believe things that can't be proven, and teaches that malice is the only acceptable way to get dopamine.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 51 points 16 hours ago

Typical conservative reply: it’s your fault you’re offended that I was an asshole.

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