this post was submitted on 21 Jan 2025
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Ye Power Trippin' Bastards

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This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.

Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.

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Make sure you follow this instance's code of conduct. In other words we won't allow bellyaching about being sanctioned for hate speech or bigotry.

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Removed Comment Did nothing wrong by sunzu2 reason: Rule against wrongful advocacy
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Banned sunzu2 from the community Ask Lemmy reason: Will not tolerate blind alignment with Luigi Mangione expires: in 3 days

Alright good folk, what's your take here.

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[–] flicker@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 17 hours ago

The funny thing about this is, when the .world mods were being insanely prohibitive of any speech involving Luigi, and censoring discussion if the event when it happened, the excuse they used was since the server is in a European country, it's illegal to foster speech that "promotes violence."

I changed my server then, as did many others, after witnessing the censorship, but it's fun to see now the mask-off answer of just not liking Luigi.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 67 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

.world mods are still frantically pissing into the wind, I see.

[–] firegem@lemm.ee 58 points 22 hours ago

I lost all faith in .world after they banned piracy communities; unbanned them after user unrest; and when the hype died down, silently rebanned them all.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 42 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Their behaviour is becoming problematic as they appear to be modding to miriror reddit.

So we left reddit to be still modded by them?

Granted due to beauty of fedi, we can still have these discussions here but they are still winning.

Luigi talk suppression is brazen, reddit gets cleaned out from it with the most mild takes being left.

At the end of the day, a normal person won't have access to these ideas because algos and mods won't let them. You don't know life is simulation until you try to step out of it.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 23 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Start a new Ask Lemmy on a different instance and announce it. I’ll subscribe.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 16 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

My account is too unhinged for modding job lol

A mod has to maintain appearance of propriety and I aint here to moderate my speech.

I do think though we will need to subs on various servers to mirrior these high traffic communities as rejects can be captured after being banned on high traffic subs. There is demand for free discussion (within reason) clearly.

This sub is an indicator of that.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 6 hours ago

Similar to why I stated that I'm unfit to run for a local public office. I've been too open about my views and too aloof with my choices and it could be used against me. But I get you.

Calling for someone with a more refined comment history to start a new Ask Lemmy, assuming someone is willing. We shouldn't let .world push people around.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 16 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

World seems to be presenting itself as Reddit 2.0, and has been for a very long time. It's also where a lot of the default subreddits came, which meant the same mod team and probably a few power users.

Which is not inherently bad, but I'd like the Reddit culture to stay on Reddit as much as possible.

[–] Orbituary@lemmy.world 9 points 21 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] GrundlButter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 46 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Won't tolerate blind alignment with Luigi? Yikes that's a lot of work, they're going to have to ban like 1/3 of the entire fediverse.

[–] Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I know right? It's utter madness. And they already tried and failed to clamp down the support for Luigi on LW before this. It's got, "this is gonna backfire" written all over it.

[–] GrundlButter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 20 hours ago

I wish I had your optimism. Personally, I feel like the world tends to try to clamp down pretty good on violent activism, and often for understandable reasons. I had hoped this time was different, that this time it was a uniting sentiment despite our many other divides in America. Instead, I often heard my conservative colleagues ironically admonish political violence over the past month.

We can't seem to agree on a single thing, not even to despise the people killing our friends and family, and robbing us blind.

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 28 points 20 hours ago

Alright good folk, what’s your take here.

PTB

[–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 29 points 21 hours ago (6 children)

They’ve effectively silenced me. I can’t keep track of where I can say pro-Luigi things.

[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 13 points 17 hours ago

Luigi Mangione is a champion of the people.

[–] Rivalarrival 13 points 19 hours ago

Block the communities that remove your pro-Luigi comments. No need to keep track of them; their mods are garbage, and you don't want to be associated with them.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 8 points 17 hours ago

Honest work don't pay, but bigger point is the suppression for the specific topic.

This is happening on the decentralized media too

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 18 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

checks modlog wow you sure do talk about assassination a lot. no judgement, just.. impressed i guess

[–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 25 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

We tried the nonviolent stuff…

🤷‍♀️

[–] Lennny@lemmy.world 9 points 18 hours ago

Colombian neckties for the rich!

[–] limer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 19 hours ago

I had similar issues with my pro-Palestinian views, and dislike towards USA centered liberalism; so I just left and blocked many of their default communities

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Ugh, this kind of "moderation" is almost making me want to take my instance and set up communities that are structured with different rules and guidelines that would mostly allow it, because frankly, fuck censorship of anything that's not hate or illegal speech.

Then I realize that'd be a job I'm not being paid for and I don't.

Sigh.

[–] Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

PTB all the way matey. Who gets to define which advocacy is "wrongful"? Are they going to start banning people for advocating for the oil and gas industry as well? That's arguably much more "wrongful".

Also, there's no mention of "wrongful advocacy" in either the community sidebar or the LW TOS afaik, so presumably it's just a made up rule.

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[–] shittydwarf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 22 hours ago

PTB. Luigi Mangione did nothing wrong

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 23 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

PTB. other considerations aside, like 2/3rds of the internet has a politics crush on Luigi. at some point mods gotta just accept that Luigi jokes are gonna be everywhere, like 9/11 jokes. and honestly overall, censorship of jokes makes them more funny and therefore more long lasting. barbara streisand type beat.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 21 hours ago
[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 17 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Someone likes the taste of corporate boot?

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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 10 points 20 hours ago

AskLemmy mod team would appear to be PTB

[–] WatDabney@sopuli.xyz 14 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Broadly, .world is fairly obviously mirroring the sycophantic policies of X/Meta/Reddit.

The only real question I have is whether it's primarily rooted in ambition or fear - whether the admin are actively trying to be admitted to the ranks of Trump-approved™ social media, or if they're just afraid that if they don't kowtow, they're going to get TikToked.

[–] GoldenCow@lemm.ee 10 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

That's because they are wanting to federate with Meta

[–] WatDabney@sopuli.xyz 7 points 19 hours ago

Ah... yes.

It became obvious to me that something was up with the announcement a while back that said, once you sifted through all the diversionary puffery and bullshit, that .world was going to follow Vichy Twitter's and Meta's lead and allow hate speech and misinformation.

But I assumed they were doing that for the same reason Meta is - to suck up to Big Baby Fascist. I hadn't considered that they were doing it to suck up to Meta.

Now it all makes sense.

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[–] ComradeMiao@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

My take is I’m glad you already aren’t on their instance because they gotta go :)

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 14 points 21 hours ago

People really need to lean into DEcentralization and make accounts on smaller servers IMHO

Smaller admins don't bother modding unless you are a proper threat actor or doing illegal shot.

High traffic subs have a lot of censorship sadly.

And this censorship is literally text book from corporate social media. Bootlickers are the biggest enemies of working class because then daddy owner ain't even getting his hands dirty lol

[–] dethedrus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Fucking hosers.

You're right, they're PTB.

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 9 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Fucking hosers.

There's a word I haven't heard in a long time!

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[–] Rivalarrival 8 points 22 hours ago

I think that might be libel. I doubt that there is anything "blind" about your alignment with Luigi Mangione.

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