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Does this make him officially the first woman president? So progressive.
If it's retroactive, then we haven't had a single male president.
No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed.
EO != law
So this means we did get the first female president! Yippee
Anyone who thinks this shit is funny is in for a rude awakening.
They do not fucking care. They will use this the exact same way that they would have used it if it was worded correctly.
You don't get out on technicalities in fascism; if the autocrat in charge wants to do the thing, he will do it. All of these things will be used as cudgels against perceived political enemies, and marginalized US citizens.
I want people to try to be less pesimistic, the point is that technicalities like this will waste time. Every one of these exectuive orders is going to be challanged in court, and while the GOP controls the higher courts, these cases will start in the lower ones. With any luck, the lower courts will stay the order until things can get resolved. Every appeal, every challange takes time to process and judges are under no obligation to resolve things quickly.
The goal currently isnt to try and overturn the order, thats just pissing into the wind. The goal is to waste their time for 2 years and hope the house flips, if it does, we can send 47 back to his golf course for the rest of his term because he wont be able to accomplish anything.
Man, I'm tired of people calling realism "pessimism." It's kind of a huge problem actually when you think about it.
They do not fucking care. They will use this the exact same way that they would have used it if it was worded correctly.
The reason why this is good news is that the more bizarrely worded the order, the easier it is to get it throw out in court, America even now runs on the WORD of the law, not the intent.
America even now runs on the WORD of the law, not the intent.
Yeah except not really. Have you paid attention to recent SCOTUS decisions? They aren't even bothering to make cogent arguments in some cases, and hearing others that never should have standing in the first place.
This. In much the same way an elder god doesn't give a damn about conservation of energy or the square cubed law, a dictator with effectively un-checked power doesn't care about wording of executive orders or LAWS. Be careful.
Cthulu has woken from eons (4 years) of slumber (not being president) to ravage the planet, while looking like a moldy cheese puff.
Edit: thankfully he's not nearly as powerful as this metaphor implies, but the point stands. The law won't stop him, I don't trust the Dems to stop him, the only thing that will is worker's might.
I think the bigger issue is hiding in plain sight:
a person belonging, at conception
Personhood does not begin at conception.
We all know that's why the mistake was made. It's not exactly rocket surgery.
It’s a P2025 script. Oklahoma made it into law into September, with the same ridiculous misunderstanding of basic biology. It doesn’t matter, they know who they are supposed to oppress.
And if it legally does, since I'm a chimera, can I use the carpool lane?
You should apply for a second birth certificate, on the grounds that both of the "people" who were conceived were actually born. You should seek a second SSN, claim them as a dependent on your taxes.
Theres two possible interpretations due to the at conception bit I think. Either he made everyone a woman, or he abolished gender all together. Either way this EO make Trump the single largest gender changer in history as he just changed the gender of either ~150 million or ~300 million people.
It's fun to think about the hypotheticals, but the reality here is that it does not matter the exact words in the EO. We know what they mean, and they won't let some silly technicality stop them.
"At conception" leaves no room for interpretation - he abolished gender altogether.
The president Donald Trump is the president with more women in their cabinet ever.
Dude is literally drowning in pussy
Binders of women
I wish, that'd be a hell of a headline.
"Muffled at Last, Serial Snapper Grabber Snatched to Death"
I'm not sure what is more disconcerting. That the people in charge truly are a bunch of fucking idiots.
Or that those idiots have outplayed and outsmarted the Democrats at damn near every turn for 20+ years.
The President in particular is very much a figurehead — he wields no real power whatsoever. He is apparently chosen by the government, but the qualities he is required to display are not those of leadership but those of finely judged outrage. For this reason the President is always a controversial choice, always an infuriating but fascinating character. His job is not to wield power but to draw attention away from it.
– The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy, Douglas Adams
At least McBride can now use the women's restrooms in the Capitol. And so must all the other politicians!
I would laugh my ass off that this bites him in the ass because it makes all scientific distinctions useless when making more laws. Just because his dumb ass doesn't understand the nuance.
I KNEW IT!
I'M A LESBIAN!!!!!
I've known my whole life and it's a relief to FINALLY to be able to come out officially.
THANK YOU PRESIDENT RUMP!
One gender for everyone!
You've heard of non-binary gender, get ready for its upgraded form: unary gender
Trump: "You must identify with the gender you were at the time of conception."
Science: "Everyone starts out as women and don't become men until 6 weeks after conception."
Trump: "That is exactly what I meant. Everyone who knows science must identify as a girly girl."
Trump decided he wanted to be the first female president obviously. Don't you liberals understand 5d chess!?
"Trump beat Hilary to being the first woman president" is honestly hilarious to me. Sad, but also hilarious.
I feel like an invulnerable Goddess, in my sleep Trump tried to turn me into a man. I went Ultra Instinct and slapped that shit without waking up, and when I finally do get up I find that the whole country is one giant lesbian slumber party.
This shit aint nothing to me ma'am, Madame President could suck my gock if I wasn't post-op.
Haha this is so awesome, she should tell that one to a trans person being denied healthcare.
Donvict and his supporters (yeah, I know, don't blame the precious voters!) don't really understand science.
Someone should sue JD Vance for addressing Trump as Mr. President. Illegally addressing him as a man. Clearly sewing doubt in the direct orders of the president, it's detrimental to the entire country.
Damn. So that means all males (including me) are technically transgender.
I think I'll have some coffee, then.
Its so stupid that the government of one of the world's most powerful countries is occupying itself trying to restrict people's healthcare and bathroom usage based on some poorly understood and arbitrary rules about zygotes. Meanwhile, the planet burns.
Bad headline IMO, she's more so pointing out more flaws in it which is different than laughing it off
"This is logically flawed because " won't really bother a bunch of Young Earth Creationists. You're arguing with people who will retreat to the baseline argument "because God said so" in a pinch. Getting into the messy details of embryonic development won't save you, because that's not how their nominations to the FBI, the DOJ, or the Federal Judiciary are going to interpret any of it.
Actually it being poorly written helps a lot with court challenge. That was one of the reasons why so much was overturned in his first administration. There was a fear that this time he'd sign better written executive orders that would survive challanges instead we're getting a lot of them like this