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I live in a country where smoking has generally been on the decline for a while now but even still I see thousands of cigarette butts in just about any public place. They litter the sides of the road, bus shelters, alleyways, outside clubs, bars and pubs, public toilets, park benches and just about everywhere else. Its even extending to disposable vapes now as well.

For the most part, where I live doesn't have that much of other kinds of litter about and is generally clean. And most public bins and all smoking areas have ashtrays and dedicated cigarette bins so it wouldn't be hard to dispose of them properly like any other piece of rubbish and even then there's often cigarette butts within sight of the bins and ashtrays.

Why then do people have a completely different approach for cigarettes?

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

There used to be ash trays in public spaces. Like, it was super common.

Since public smoking bans are more common, there are no ash trays anywhere. So people just throw their shit on the ground.

Removing ash trays isn't going to make smokers go "oh well, guess I should stop smoking." It makes them go "oh well, I guess there's nowhere to throw this away, it's going on the ground now."

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 day ago (9 children)

How often do you see somewhere to put a cigarette butt? Sure people are selfish and lazy but if there was somewhere to put them in public spaces they would be used. People who smoke in the car and toss them out the window are dickheads though

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago

Where I live public ashtrays are very common in public places. The littering is not as bad as it could be (used to be worse before public ashtrays were common), but lots of people still litter in those areas.

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[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 6 points 1 day ago

I can say the same thing people who consume prepared beverages, ie starbucks caps, buttle tea straight plastic on plastic etc is everywhere. god forbid they go half a block to put in the trash. tourist areas are fucking abominations.

Smokers are deff dicks with cigarettes butts but culture of waste if not limited to them and they cause less litter than people getting carry out food unless you know what you are doing...

I don't do chipotle anymore but their carry out packaging was paper on paper with some foil. OG pizza, paper box...

some food aint meant for carry out folks, stop.

[–] ryedaft@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nicotine apparently rots the brain. I was at a bar yesterday and there was a shelf over the urinals and as many bins for snus packets as there were urinals. The bins were labelled in multiple languages that they were for snus packets. They were really obvious. And there were still snus packets in the urinals.

[–] Diddlydee@feddit.uk 8 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I could probably Google, but what on earth is snus?

[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 day ago

It's a type of swedish smokeless tobacco that has seen popularity elsewhere. It is something like chewing tobacco in a miniature teabag. Health risks are likely lower than other forms of tobacco, based on current (limited) evidence, both due to the lack of combustion and manufacturing process (pasteurized rather than curing and fermentation) but it's still addictive because of the nicotine and shows an increase in cancer incidence.

Apparently, Swedish snus also has higher bioavailability of nicotine than American due to pH and moisture content.

Apparently, disgusting fuckers in the previous comment were spitting the little "teabags" out on the shelf above the urinals or in the urinals (I've seen the later).

[–] AdmiralRob@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago

Smokeless tobacco placed under the lip for the nicotine to be absorbed by the gums. If you're familiar with dipping tobacco ("dip"), it's the same concept, but the tobacco is processed differently and is usually in little teabag-like pouches for convenience.

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

An attempt to make snuff cool again.

[–] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It depends. Some people grew up tossing them and old habits die hard. That was less of an issue when it was some paper and leaf, but definitely more of an issue today with filters and such. In places where there's more enforcement, people tend to carry pocket ashtrays and actually clean up after themselves. Improving enforcement and education would probably help reduce littering.

[–] Tinks@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Back many moons ago when I smoked I preferred unfiltered Lucky Strikes. I generally put them in ash trays anywhere I could find one, but if one wasn't available in the vicinity I had no qualms with dropping it and giving it a smash and twist with my whole to put it out and effectively destroy it. One rain, or even just a good fog, and it no longer existed. I agree I think this habit was continued when filters came into fashion and it's just not equivalent at all.

[–] Diddlydee@feddit.uk 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Jumping in to say I quit smoking after 25ish years on New Year's Eve and have not faltered at all. It was (for me at least) really easy when you truly want to.

I will 100% have a solitary joint on my birthday in May, though.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah I don’t get it either. I smoke and I’ve never thrown a cigarette on the ground in my life. It’s a shitty habit and you should try to at least not be a pig about it. I make my apprentices pick them up when I see them do it.

[–] xep@fedia.io 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No. I’m a carpenter. All carpenters aren’t wizards, it was just that Jesus feller.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not "just". But damn, he was good and left a grimoire.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He was a lich. He had necromancy mastered so well that he raised himself.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 points 1 day ago

He referenced Thoth. Just saying.

[–] Mothra@mander.xyz 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I guess you can't keep a cigarette butt in your pocket or purse like you can with a snack wrapper. Which forces people to dump them. Which creates a really bad habit, I mean you been tossing that shit yesterday when you didn't find a bin, why should you care today? This is not an excuse though, just an attempt to understand the behavior which is what you're asking

[–] classic@fedia.io 5 points 1 day ago

~~Portable~~ pocket ashtrays. Very common in some places

[–] drspod@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

Since nobody has mentioned it yet: Have you never wondered how dumpster fires get started?

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I don't notice this in my country. Most bins have a cigarette bin attached and most smokers don't just light up anywhere. It's water bottles here instead.

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