Casinos are always a scam, you can't win, and if you find a way they kick you out.
this post was submitted on 25 Oct 2023
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Someone should tell Anon that him leaving with his kneecaps intact is only a recent development.
Except that the introduction of multiple decks for a single table made card counting all but useless
I call shenanigans
Not necessarily true. People still succeed at card counting with 6 deck shoes. The main problem is that you need a lot of capital for the odds to eventually even out in your favor. Even in the bast case scenario, you still only have a 1% advantage. There are counting groups that will pool tons of money and then split the total winnings as to maintain a higher average winnings.
Actually, 6 deck shoes, still slow for counting.
What has killed counting is casino's shuffling after every hand you a single deck.
Private business
If you go into a Walmart and start talking to employees about unions, you'll get escorted out.
Unfortunately for anon, "understands basic probability" is not a protected class under the civil rights act.
Too small of a minority
Anon doesn't need to guess hit or stand. They can just memorize the table for the casino's rule variant.
Counting cards can help adjust the bet, if they think the rest of the decks in the shoe are favorable.
Exactly, making the right call is not card counting.
Card counting is used in tandem with structuring your bets so you know when to get big and when not to.
No one is going to kick you out for making the correct decision, they are going to kick you out after watching your betting habits.
It's allowed because they can do whatever they want. It's their table and their cards. As long as they don't welch on payouts that you've already earned, they can kick you out for any reason (except belonging to a protected class), or for no reason.
Casinos absolutely do refuse to pay out all the time. Literally just Google it.
On this note, don't gamble in casinos on reservations. They are not subject to federal regulations, and they absolutely do kick you out without paying if you win big enough.
After what we've done to the natives I can't blame them
We’ll do what we did to the natives again if they don’t give out their money.
Every class should be a protected class.
Err, what? Do you want it to be illegal to kick someone out for wearing a swastika? That's a "class" of people.
We use the law to protect marginalized people, not just any category of asshole we can think of.
Card counting requires multiple people at the table surreptitiously working together. Anon needs to watch a video on how to count cards.
Nope, it does not. You can have a team, but you absolutely can card count on your own in BJ. I think you are the one who needs to watch a video I am afraid.
You honestly don't even really need a team to get an edge over the house. My mom is addicted to gambling and black jack is the only thing that keeps her from being broke.
If you sit at a table with people who actually know what they're doing, and are all focused on actually playing together vs the house instead of playing to win every hand they can...you can all make a good deal of money.
I've had to on multiple occasions go and pick my 60 year old mother from the casino because shes spent over 20 hours at the table and can't drive anymore. Once you have a table full of people who know how to play together nobody leaves. Because as soon as you do, some drunk dude is going to come in and ruin the count by doing a dumb split or something that only benefits themselves.
At it's simplest card counting involves keeping track of how many hard 10s (10, k, q, j) there are in the shoe, assuming you know how many decks are in the shoe and that the discard isn't reshuffled into the shoe too often. When you find yourself in a situation where there are a lot of tens still in the deck but a lot of the smaller value cards have been played, you bet heavily and stand on low values hoping that the dealer will tend to bust (in most casinos a dealer will hit on 15 or below and stand on 16 or above, more tens in the deck means it's more likely that the dealer will bust, yielding a small statistical advantage to the player in a tens-heavy scenario)