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Research suggests that pandemics are more likely to reduce rather than build trust in scientific and political authorities.

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Bad headline: Covid didn't do that, grifters exploiting covid did that.

The saying "never let a good crisis go to waste" applies here.

In times of crisis, such as a pandemic, people are looking for reassurance, people to blame, or both. That's the ideal time for grifters to swindle them, whether for money, power, political support or more than one of the above.

Fascism has always risen from times of intense hardship and ineffective to nonexistent opposition to disinformation and those that spread it.

From Mussolini, Franco, and Hitler in the first half of the 20th century, to Orban, Putin, and Trump today, that's how you get fascism.

[–] Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world 48 points 1 day ago (3 children)

So education pushes people left and sickness pushes people right?

[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 19 hours ago

Yes. That is actually a fact. The more educated one is the higher the likely hood they tend to lean left

[–] anindefinitearticle@sh.itjust.works 38 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Is that why the Republicans are against healthcare and education?

[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 19 hours ago

Thats exactly why

That's really interesting, same goes for religiousness.

I always think that it's because people who have it rougher need something to look forward to (ie afterlife). As education helps escape poverty, people become less religious. I wonder if this association is the reason for the political spectrum shift too, since the right tends to associate more closely with the church.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 49 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Couldn't read the whole article, but it's interesting how politics even outside the US has tainted science to also be not worthy of trust. The science was never the question, only how it was manipulated to tell a different narrative for the current people in power. Masks are a perfect example. There are still people who question someone wearing a mask or its effectiveness because for some reason a politician told them it was pointless, even though plenty of actual research shows reality. Even just common sense will tell you that something is better than nothing, yet the cult following fools some to not even believe their own gut feelings or eyes. Orwellian.

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 day ago

Couldn't read the whole article

Here you go: https://archive.is/WBfrQ

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 1 day ago

But I can't breathe!

Seriously, I had to fly a bunch for an elderly family member during 2021. I wore two masks in the airport and on planes. I saw a chuckhead come out of the airplane bathroom with his mask down, realize it, and quickly put it back on. My guy. Is it that fucking onerous to wear?!

By the way, the only time I've had covid was in 2023. I think three years without getting it was a pretty good run. I wouldn't say masks weren't a part of that run.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 5 points 1 day ago

only how it was manipulated to tell a different narrative for the current people in power.

And these people love muddy waters, makes it easier to rule the slave force.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 16 points 1 day ago

its because they all the time to listen to joe roegan and become engaged on X thats why.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

The writers and journalists putting this piece together always write it from the point of view that right wing parties and movements just magically come out of the woodwork and start spreading on their own accord as if it's some sort of seasonal or cyclical trend.

Right wing rhetoric, movements and groups are funded by money. Every political movement only grows through the use of money ... the more a group has of it, the stronger they can become, the louder their message and the bigger their movement.

There are lots of left leaning people and movements and they probably outnumber far right extremists. But you know what the difference between the two groups are? MONEY .... Right wing extremists have a habit of appearing in national headlines. Left wingers barely ever get the media spotlight other than to be painted as protesters who have no support.

Conservatives enjoy funding far right movements because it is part of a idea of the Overton Window ... if you shift the conversation too far to one end of the political spectrum, then you can shift everyone into that direction. No one will accept far right extremists but if you allow them to join the conversation and make them acceptable, then everyone can take one step to the right and now everyone in the left and far left start to look more and more like far left extremists.

Political movements don't come out of thin air ... they are constantly being pumped, primed and sponsored by wealthy benefactors who can move money around in the most discreet ways in order to make the world move in the ways that they want.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

I called it in 2020 to my therapist. I linked the flu pan to the rise of fascism and theorized that major catastrophic events plus fear may lead to something similar now. Least glad I've ever been about being right on anything.

[–] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

COVID oversaw the extreme price gouging while squeezing "non-essential" businesses into insolvency. Inflation is still high where it matters to most people. We're losing our quality of life to produce more billionaires and we've been convinced it's the immigrants and queers that are to blame.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 51 minutes ago

I'm not convinced. It's the rich ruining our lives.