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    [–] AnnaFrankfurter@lemmy.ml 2 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

    Is no one gonna talk about neovim or are we all just like set the alias and forgot that we are inside neovim and not vim or vi

    [–] BlackXanthus@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago (7 children)

    The comments on this post went exactly like they have over the past 20 years, with one exception.

    Emacs is all but forgoten.

    Vim wins.

    [–] BlackXanthus@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago

    There we are. Now all is right with the world.

    What would an editor discuss be without those that support Emacs?

    I noticed we even got some doom evil advocates! Lemmy truly has come off age!

    (Note: as tone is hard on text: I'm genuinely pleased, and agree that the joy of Linux/Unix is it's variety. Thank you everyone)

    [–] sunshine@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago

    I don't know, I used vim for like 6 years and then discovered, thanks to the power of evil and doom, how much better the vi experience is inside the context of emacs. With all the utilities and packages, it's worth the small additional burden of troubleshooting that it imposes.

    Be real fukin careful now. You’ll tear my enacs from my cold dead hands

    (But yeah, I use evil-mode. Also I edit files on remote servers with vim. I’m a traitor…)

    [–] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 16 points 2 days ago (3 children)

    Recently, I recommended to a friend that basic vim/vi is worth learning because it's a baseline that you can always trust will be there across different Linux systems.

    They asked me what I used most on my home system, and the answer was emacs, but I was very clear that I was not recommending it. It's a particular kind of person who finds themselves at home in emacs, and for everyone besides those people, selling them on emacs would feel like persuading them to do hard drugs.

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    [–] geoff@lemm.ee 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    When people are free to choose the best editor for them, we ALL win.

    [–] mvirts@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

    Unless it happens to be Ms word, in which case we all lose

    [–] frezik@midwest.social 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

    I think there's a good reason for that. If you're not as concerned about resource consumption (Emacs used to be called "Eight Megabytes and Constantly Swapping", back when 8MB was a lot), then there's no reason to avoid even more complex and resource intensive IDEs. People who wanted a complex editor, but in a relatively small footprint, stuck with some variant of vi.

    Thus, vi found a stable evolutionary niche. It's a tardigrade.

    [–] crmsnbleyd@sopuli.xyz 7 points 2 days ago

    you have offended all 6 of us, prepare for retribution

    [–] synicalx@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
    [–] AnnaFrankfurter@lemmy.ml 2 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

    You write Ansible playbooks to automate infrastructure management. But calling it a coding language might be a stretch it is just yaml

    [–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    Sorry maybe I'm dumb. But does this mean VIM and Obsidian are Vi?

    [–] gwilikers@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 days ago

    Vi is actually a predecessor to Vim but many people, myself included, will alias Nvim or Vim to Vi. And I've seen people use Vi as a catch all too.

    [–] sunshine@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

    I usually refer to im as "vi" just to ~~make people think I'm old school and cool~~ save time typing that last character.

    But Obsidian??

    [–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Oh yes. My "excell isn't a database" program. Obsidian.

    [–] sunshine@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    I want to understand this comment!

    [–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Obsidian the note taking program, I use it for storing my code, and also a KB at work. It's made for note taking, but I use it like it's my git, and wiki for an IT team.

    [–] joyjoy@lemm.ee 71 points 3 days ago (1 children)
    [–] zorro@lemmy.world 57 points 3 days ago (2 children)
    [–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 36 points 3 days ago (1 children)
    [–] Cenzorrll@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

    LXIX my balls! Haha got'em.

    Believe it or not, this is the second time I got to make that joke within an hour.

    [–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 26 points 3 days ago

    * laughs in Latin *

    [–] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 29 points 3 days ago (1 children)
    [–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    We don't want a viditor, we want an editor. Why? Because ed is the standard!

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    [–] geoff@lemm.ee 42 points 3 days ago (13 children)
    [–] mazzilius_marsti@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    I use vi from an Emacs Shell, which was spawned from an Emacs GUI.

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    [–] AntY@lemmy.world 38 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    Vi hasn’t been updated since 2005. Aren’t everyone just using vim or neovim?

    [–] smeg@feddit.uk 37 points 3 days ago (7 children)

    I use whatever the machine gives me when I type vi, I assume it's usually vim

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    [–] Shady_Shiroe@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    Bro you forgot the 'm' at the end of vi

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    [–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 40 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    Editing excel spreadsheet? VI

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    [–] Earflap@reddthat.com 22 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    The last one should be

    SQL queries? Believe it or not vi

    Yes, this is my preferred SQL client!

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    [–] mogoh@lemmy.ml 30 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    Java? vi!
    COBOL? vi!
    SVG? Believe it or not, vi!

    /s

    [–] frezik@midwest.social 6 points 2 days ago

    SVG, unironically yes. There's a few times where I found a library or WYSIWYG editor making some strange choices for its SVG output, and I had to fix it manually.

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    [–] kata1yst@sh.itjust.works 29 points 3 days ago (11 children)

    Everyone at work is using Cursor these days, except for me using neovim and my emacs loving coworker. When we present during pair programming our coworkers go nuts over watching our workflows and trying to figure out if they can do similar things in Cursor lol.

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