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Naw, It totally depends on how you downvote Democrats.

The majority of the anti-magats know the Democrats suck. We also know that the magats suck worse, and then the green and libertarians worse yet.

If you give any form of indication that you think the Democrats are worse than the magats, That's a downvote.

Most of the existing Democrats aren't particularly cozy with the Democratic leadership, or honestly even with the full scope of their intent, But the f if we're going to not download you for promoting something worse.

this is ragebait. democrats constantly criticize their reps, to a fault. obv spending time criticizing dems more than repubs rn is tone deaf and actively harmful. if theres some point to be made like 'jeffries is a sold out dark money lobbyist' plenty would agree; but if someone says 'democrats suck' as a blanket statement rn, im gonna assume theyre a russian bot and block+ban✌️

I do believe the requirement is that you just need to be specific. Republicans generally suck all around right now so that's a valid statement.

However, if you're going to complain about Democrats you need to say something like, "the leadership sucks" or, "there's too many rich people influencing the party!"

That's been my experience so far 🤷

I think that's something related to people only being used to a system with two parties. It is either one or the other, no other alternatives. And the fact that they do believe the democratic party is left-wing because it has some progressive views.

Edit: replaced "no in between" for "no other alternatives" because in this case, being in between is just being a centrist and it isn't what I meant

I mean, i usually get modest upvotes when i talk about this sort of thing. I believe if we actually want to stop this fall into authoritarianism, our first step is to take control of the Democratic Party. How do you do that? Don’t vote for Neo liberals and ignore everyone who cries that unless you vote blue no matter who the republicans will win. That obviously doesn’t work, and democrats work against leftist policies. They whole time leading up to the election it was all “now is not the time” well i played their game and lost. Now it’s time.

The only instance I've noticed that on is midwest.social.

well said. you can pretty much extrapolate this line of thought to every soc-dem, left-of-center, liberal party in the world. they make a wiener water government, blame people when they lose elections and are left wondering why people didn't called their wiener water government a bouillabasse or an onion soup.

The United States of America is more important then the Democratic Party.

With state level electoral reform, we could give 3rd parties the freedom to participate in the electoral process without a spoiler effect.

No more hostage situation, more options, elections could be a competition to defeat the republicans/make things better, more democracy.

Who could say no to more democracy?

Republicans? Why of course they would say no. They are passing legislation in red states to protect First-past-the-post voting. In Alaska they held a referendum last election to go back to FPTP voting because Sarah Palin was kept out of office by their Ranked Choice voting system. It didn't pass, the people dont want FPTP anymore in Alaska.

How about the blue states and the democrats that are elected there. Do they support democracy? I guess that would depend on if they are still using FPTP when the mid term elections are hopefully held.

It's not to late, we can have more choices in the voting booth. We can have more then one chance to defeat the republicans.

This is stupid

For sure, about %90 of them voted No to Sander's stop weapon sale to Israel resolution. They are worthless pieces of shits which would switch to the republican party at the blink of an eye had they thought their position in the Democrat party was insecure.

If I thought that the democrat party was the only viable option to defeat Trump would I vote for democrats instead of say, voting a third party? Without a second of doubt, yes. We don't even need to debate whether the Democrat party is marginally better than the Republican party or not. The main important difference is that if Trump wins (which he did) half of the country is going to cheer for every vile shit he does (which they do) and this will enable them to carry this vile shit into their personal lives (which they also do).

On the other hand if Kamala were to do such vile shit (granted there is imo %0 chance she could be this worse on almost all matters) at least she would get booed by the people who voted for her. There is a very big difference between how much these reactions enable a president to do even more extreme shit or not and whether if people are encouraged to replicate such behaviour on a local level or not.

So instead of waiting until the last 90 days and then suddenly going "DON'T VOTE FOR DEMOCRATS OR REPUBLICANS LETS CHANGE THE COURSE OF HISTORY WOHOO", start working from now to make the third options more viable. Then it will be more sincere and useful.

Democrats are able to hold those who commit crimes in their party accountable, thst alone is enough difference to disqualify Republicans entirely.