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[–] oakey66@lemmy.world 129 points 13 hours ago (4 children)

AGI is not in reach. We need to stop this incessant parroting from tech companies. LLMs are stochastic parrots. They guess the next word. There's no thought or reasoning. They don't understand inputs. They mimic human speech. They're not presenting anything meaningful.

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 34 points 12 hours ago (9 children)

I feel like I have found a lone voice of sanity in a jungle of brainless fanpeople sucking up the snake oil and pretending LLMs are AI. A simple control loop is closer to AI than a stochastic parrot, as you correctly put it.

[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 19 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

There are at least three of us.

I am worried what happens when the bubble finally pops because shit always rolls downhill and most of us are at the bottom of the hill.

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 11 points 10 hours ago

Not sure if we need that particular bubble to pop for us to be drowned in a sea of shit, looking at the state of the world right now :( But silicon valley seems to be at the core of this clusterfuck, as if all the villains form there or flock there...

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[–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 17 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

That undersells them slightly.

LLMs are powerful tools for generating text that looks like something. Need something rephrased in a different style? They're good at that. Need something summarized? They can do that, too. Need a question answered? No can do.

LLMs can't generate answers to questions. They can only generate text that looks like answers to questions. Often enough that answer is even correct, though usually suboptimal. But they'll also happily generate complete bullshit answers and to them there's no difference to a real answer.

They're text transformers marketed as general problem solvers because a) the market for text transformers isn't that big and b) general problem solvers is what AI researchers are always trying to create. They have their use cases but certainly not ones worth the kind of spending they get.

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[–] eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 5 hours ago

I promise this is relevant and worth the watch.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tBE06SdgzwM&t=3s

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 18 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

For how many years? Cuz y'all ain't anywhere near AGI. You can't even get generative AI to not suck compared to your competition in that market (which is a pretty low bar) lol

[–] schizo@forum.uncomfortable.business 107 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

"Work 50% longer weeks so you can make something that'll both make me richer AND cost you your jobs!" is not the motivational speech he thinks it is.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 23 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I don't even know what AGI is, and I read the headline as "rich disconnected from reality asshole".

Turns out I was right.

[–] pdxfed@lemmy.world 6 points 13 hours ago

A General ignoramus

[–] meeeeetch@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago

Wait, are these AI boosters bragging about how close they are to building God the torture that Roko's Basilisk is inflicting on us all?

[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 11 hours ago

With all the rounds of layoffs they've had, their remaining employees would need to be quite stupid to give a shit what this disloyal piece trash says.

[–] InnerScientist@lemmy.world 229 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

That's why I bake my cake at 2608°C for ~1,8 minutes, it just works™

[–] alykanas@slrpnk.net 124 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Project Manager here, and where I’m from it’s common knowledge that 9 women can have a baby in a month .

[–] isaaclyman@lemmy.world 40 points 16 hours ago

Or!—hear me out—one woman whose 8 co-gestators were just laid off by someone who doesn’t understand what their job was

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[–] kambusha@sh.itjust.works 8 points 11 hours ago

You can’t produce a baby in one month by getting nine women pregnant.

[–] Dindonmasker@sh.itjust.works 17 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Burnt crust full of liquid cake. yum!

[–] refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
[–] jenesaisquoi@feddit.org 1 points 4 hours ago

It's more accurate than you think, because brulée literally means burnt

[–] dan1101@lemm.ee 44 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Let's work 20 hour weeks then. Who wants AGI other than war pigs and billionaires?

[–] RisingSwell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 11 hours ago

I mean, we could get a rogue agi take over the world. It might not even be worse lmao

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 38 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (2 children)

If it's in reach working 60 hour weeks, it's also in reach working 40 hour weeks, it will just take 1/3rd longer. ;)

[–] howrar@lemmy.ca 30 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Let's be real, it'll probably happen faster on 40 hour work weeks than 60.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 21 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

lots of evidence starting to point to it'd be quicker in 32 hour weeks than 40

[–] LodeMike 5 points 10 hours ago
[–] flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz 142 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

lol, because if they work 40-hour weeks they might create it a couple of weeks later

[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 68 points 16 hours ago (4 children)

Or, worse, they might actually have to hire enough people to actually do the job. Why hire 100 people with good work life balance, when you can hire 60 people that aren't allowed to have lives or families.

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[–] 3dmvr@lemm.ee 58 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

If it can be reached in 60 hour work weeks it can be reached in 40, but nah mfs should rush to get themselves replaced

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 18 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

If it can be reached in 60 hour work weeks, then it can be reached in 40 hour work weeks be hiring a second person.

If management isn't willing to put the effort in of hiring the required staff, why would I want to work the job of 2 people for 1 persons pay?

[–] frezik@midwest.social 6 points 13 hours ago

IT project management doesn't work that way, but it doesn't matter much. 60 hour work weeks wouldn't help, either.

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 28 points 14 hours ago (3 children)
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[–] Sibbo@sopuli.xyz 56 points 17 hours ago

This is almost too depressing to be funny.

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 7 points 11 hours ago
[–] aramis87@fedia.io 24 points 15 hours ago (5 children)

Or, y'know, he could hire 50% more programmers / contractors, instead of overworking his current staff

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 7 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

There's an upper limit to how many bodies you can throw at a task.

9 women won't make a baby in one month.

[–] greybeard@lemmy.one 6 points 10 hours ago

But you can make an average of 1 baby a month in 9 months with 9 woman. It's all about proper planning and budgeting over longer periods.

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[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 13 points 14 hours ago

So he's saying it's not in reach then.

[–] RegalPotoo@lemmy.world 25 points 16 hours ago (4 children)

They talk about AGI like it's some kind of intrinsically benevolent messiah that is going to come along and free humanity of limitations rather than a product that is going to be monetised to make a few very rich people even richer

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[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 20 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Disgusting prasite seeking free labour

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