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Trump just presided over one of the greatest diplomatic disasters in modern history, with flared tempers, raised voices, and shredded protocol.

Never before has a U.S. president bullied and berated an adversary, never mind an ally, in such a public way.

During a tense Oval Office meeting, Trump and JD Vance attacked Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, demanding he accept a peace deal with Russia or lose U.S. support.

The conversation devolved into shouting, with Trump accusing Zelenskyy of being ungrateful and “gambling with World War III.”

The meeting ended in chaos, with no agreement reached.

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[–] clot27@lemm.ee 7 points 9 hours ago

That was crazy

[–] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 58 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

I'm ready to protest this shit. Tell me when and where to show up, my local big city or state capital. This is some bullshit. Trump and Vance are egotistical dickheads. Ukraine are our allies! Imagine George Washington doing this with Marquis de Lafayette, or FDR with Churchill!! Unspeakable!

[–] Bamboodpanda@lemmy.world 31 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Ukraine is a US ally. Trump is a Russian ally. Of course he would attack his adversary.

[–] torrentialgrain@lemm.ee 12 points 12 hours ago (4 children)

Bro have you been in a coma? The US is now taking the side of Russia, North Korea, Iran and China. Our alliances with the free west are dead.

[–] Lifter@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

That's kinda what they said.

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[–] SolidShake@lemmy.world 23 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

remember you guys. peace day 1! trump never lies

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

They did this exactly why they staged this - so they can point a finger and say "Zelensky is not ready for peace" which btw is literally a real quote trump said just now

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 79 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (7 children)

"Peace deal" means surrender now, don't join NATO, and get invaded again in a few years.

TBH idk how Zelenskyy thought things would go any differently.

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[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 20 points 12 hours ago

This is genuinely one of the stupidest things I've seen. We all are used the the bar getting lower and lower but lordy it just accelerated.

[–] Ketchup@reddthat.com 113 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Finally a f**king actual headline. That was a disaster and a disgrace for all Americans. I can’t take these meek be “explosive White House meeting, where maybe Trump was possibly speaking angrily, but please Mr. Trump don’t sue us, if you disagree!”

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[–] HighFructoseLowStand@lemm.ee 36 points 14 hours ago (17 children)

As much as this makes me hate Donald Trump more than I already did, which was already more than I hate almost anyone, the really horrific thing is that a decent fraction of Americans will look at this and think Trump made the right decision, or at least a brave, or reasonable, decision.

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[–] gashead76@lemmy.world 103 points 17 hours ago (4 children)

I just can't understand why Vance would interpret Zelenskyy as being disrespectful for politely, calmly, and carefully articulating his point of view on how diplomacy has failed him and his country. Vance seems like the type of person I would basically laugh at and walk away from if I were in a situation to have to hear him be "alpha and in-charge".

It was like watching a scene from an episode of a reality TV show from the early 2000s.

[–] MonkeMischief 7 points 9 hours ago

Love how the guy who said "I'll make up whatever stories I need to" told Zelenskyy, after being asked if he's seen what Ukraine is going through: "Oh I haven't personally been there but I've seen stories."

Stories from where, vice couch-humper? RT News?

[–] Clusterfck@lemmy.sdf.org 70 points 16 hours ago

Because they went in wanting to find a way to make Zelenskyy seem unreasonable. They have no intention of helping Ukraine at all and now it's going to be because he didn't immediately kiss Trumps feet.

[–] TheTwelveYearOld@lemmy.world 43 points 15 hours ago

It was like watching a scene from an episode of a reality TV show from the early 2000s.

That's not a coincidence.

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[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 44 points 15 hours ago (5 children)

It's been a while since I've gone through a whole day being proud of my US citizenship. Today was one of the most shameful.

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[–] x00z@lemmy.world 246 points 19 hours ago (5 children)

I checked a few parts for a few minutes. It was too painful to watch.

Troomp and JD couch showed the worst traits leaders could have. The obvious ones are the American superiority complexes and the toxic need to escalate and talk down upon others.

In all of the bits I saw when skipping trough it, Zelenksy deescalated the situation multiple times while Trump and especially Vance escalated and started talking like some pretentious teenager bullies that gotten themselves a country.

Fuck the USA.

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[–] polite_cat@lemmy.world 363 points 20 hours ago (20 children)

Zelenskyy is a goddamn hero

fuck trump fuck vance fuck musk fuck putin

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[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 35 points 14 hours ago (9 children)

Wrote up a summary months ago (with reputable sources!) about this stuff, and was permabanned from Lemmy news and politics for it.

Idk man, you can tell people stuff, but it’s so hard for them to access what’s real right now. There’s a concerted online effort to suppress factual info.

https://lemmy.world/comment/13431373

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[–] blaggle42 127 points 18 hours ago (9 children)

I don't know exactly how to put this, but I feel personally embarrassed by this.

I think this is going to shift world order more than expected. Every country now must be nuclear. Trump is going to try to install himself as a dictator. I think violence will have to be the answer. Man it's depressing.

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