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[–] Libb@jlai.lu 62 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

However, not everything is lost at this point.

I won't lose much myself as I don't use Edge (and I'd rather not browse the web at all than be forced to look at ads) but it's clear there is a worrysome acceleration in the vanishing of the little control we have over the Internet and the way we are allowed to experience it.

[–] general_djoka@lemmy.world 30 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

It’s never a bad time to use Firefox. Been on it for many years (with a brief hiatus on chrome) and can’t recommend it enough.

[–] MrJ199414@lemmy.world 27 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Firefox just recently changed their tos removing the part where they said they don't sell your data. Will be searching for an alternative soon.

[–] something_random_tho@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Librewolf is good. It’s up-to-date Firefox with all the nonsense stripped out (ads, telemetry, Pocket) and things like uBlock Origin preinstalled.

[–] modifier@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Just switched to librewolf and Fennec yesterday and so far not feeling any loss of functionality or performance.

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] modifier@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] spectre@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

IronFox is a hardened Firefox fork for Android you could use.

Give it a few days and see what happens. Knee jerk reactions are rarely good.

I would start reading up on the latest news about Firefox unfortunately

[–] Zier@fedia.io 25 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Watch how Firefox either gets sold or suddenly blocks all ad blocking addons.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Can you sell open source software..?

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 9 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Not the code per se, but everything around it can be sold. You can sell access to the repository, support services, compilation services, development services, and so on. Mozilla could sell itself to some greasy investor and go full steam ahead on enshittification e.g embed ads in the browser, sell user browsing data, connect it to their own services, and so on.

Anti Commercial-AI license

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Anything can happen anytime also

[–] heavydust@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

You can actually sell a GPLed binary and any client would have to ask for the source. Boom, selling the source!

It’s independent on the organization and the other stuff.

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You don't have to be a client 😉 And of you have to request the source, that's already against the license, I believe. That's how lawsuits start(ed).

Anti Commercial-AI license

[–] heavydust@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You can be a third party but it’s confusing. What I’m sure is that you don’t have to put the source code, i.e. people may have to ask for the source, like https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.en.html#WhatDoesWrittenOfferValid

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 1 points 2 weeks ago

I didn't know that. Thank you. Learned something new today!

What a complicated licence.

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[–] shades@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

. Mozilla could sell itself to some greasy investor and go full steam ahead on enshittification e.g embed ads in the browser, sell user browsing data, connect it to their own services, and so on.

Yeah but you can always fork it from the last push before that happened and then only tools will go with the enshitified version.

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

If it's that easy, why hasn't it been forked yet?

You make a valid point, but forking is a lot more than clicking "fork".

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[–] heavydust@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Yes. Even Stallman agreed with that. That’s the story of the GPL. But you’re talking of selling the Mozilla corporation which is different.

Yes you can. You need to buy out all the contributors and then you can do whatever you want. Prior versions remain open source, but they could change that going forward.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 19 points 2 weeks ago

Between that and ads in the taskbar and Cortana, MS really hates their users.

[–] madame_gaymes@programming.dev 19 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

Who the fuck even uses Edge?

[–] protonslive@lemm.ee 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Think about all offices, businesses and personal computers of people who don't deeply know about computers

[–] madame_gaymes@programming.dev 2 points 2 weeks ago

I was kinda more referencing people on Lemmy. I know there are a lot of people that are clueless. I have several users that use Edge and it's a constant battle.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

For some reason, the asshats in my company are pushing for it as default

[–] madame_gaymes@programming.dev 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

🤮 indeed

[–] salacious_coaster@infosec.pub 3 points 2 weeks ago

As a sysadmin in a Microsoft shop, it has a lot of management features that I like. Users generally love Chrome and hate Firefox (for some reason, I dunno) so Edge was a good compromise while it still supported ublock.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 weeks ago

as far as a chromium skin goes, it's far better than chrome - especially with tab grouping, vertical tabs, and profile link handling.

[–] Captainautism@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago

The only reason I even have it installed is to test websites (developer).

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Normies too lazy to install something different.

[–] Ibuthyr@lemmy.wtf 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Normies don't use adblockers though. So this doesn't change a thing, lol.

Hence why normies use Edge, they didn't change a thing.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago

Death to Microsoft

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 weeks ago

vivaldi has a built in ad and tracker blocker and it's not an american company :)

if you want a chromium browser, that is.

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago

I’ll take news that doesn’t affect anyone on Lemmy for 100 Alex!