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[–] cron@feddit.org 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The Netherlands, which had once allocated 20% of its new city bus purchases to hydrogen in 2021, has now completely phased it out.

The earlier we accept that hydrogen is a dead end for most road-related use cases, the better. Good that new city buses now run mostly electric.

[–] Noedel@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

A while ago I was talking to someone form Toyota's sustainability team and they were FROTHING over hydrogen. I don't know much about it, but that surprised me.

[–] Geobloke@lemm.ee 1 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Because Japan needs to import most of its energy, it makes more sense to burn the energy at the wheels then behind the wires

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

And how is turning fossil fuels into hydrogen in a wildly inefficient process going to help with that?

[–] Geobloke@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Well, the plan would be to go l use to green energy eventually. Yes, still inefficient, but it makes more sense than burning it in a power plant and pumping the electricity to the car

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

If you have green electricity, why not just use it to charge the battery? Why go through horribly inefficient extra steps?

[–] Geobloke@lemm.ee 1 points 34 minutes ago

Because they don't want to use it in Japan?

[–] threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works 2 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Japan needs to import most of its energy

Does Japan not get sunlight or wind, or are there other factors at play?

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 3 points 10 hours ago

Offshore wind isn't really a starter for them. They're on the edge of the Pacific shelf and the waters get deep quick. That makes platforms very hard. I also don't think they get much in terms of prevailing winds unlike northern Europe with the Atlantic Jetstreams.

[–] Geobloke@lemm.ee 2 points 15 hours ago

Well, real estate is at a premium in an earthquake prone, typhoon ravaged set of islands. They even have geothermal potential, but don't want to industrialise something with deep cultural value.

[–] ChinoKawaii@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I haven't seen a single electric bus in czechia

we do use a lot of trams and trolleybuses, but still quite a lot of loud busses

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 2 points 10 hours ago

All the trams are electric and from my experience (Brno) there's lots of those.

[–] cron@feddit.org 8 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Czechia is slower to migrate to electric buses than most EU countries.

[–] threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works 3 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Great chart! Who are "EU27"? Total average?

[–] cron@feddit.org 4 points 15 hours ago

Yes, the 27 EU contries (since brexit)