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GAZA: 3,195 children killed in three weeks surpasses annual number of children killed in conflict zones since 2019 (www.savethechildren.net)

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Since October 7, more than 3,257 children have been reported killed, including at least 3,195 in Gaza, 33 in the West Bank, and 29 in Israel, according to the Ministries of Health in Gaza and Israel respectively. The number of children reported killed in just three weeks in Gaza is more than the number killed in armed conflict globally – across more than 20 countries – over the course of a whole year, for the last three years.

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[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 88 points 8 months ago

Yet some people still claim Israel is the victim! When the truth is that Israel is a terrorist state.

[-] TinyPizza@kbin.social 50 points 8 months ago

The ol' "you shot me in the foot so I burnt down your neighborhood and killed your entire extended family" defense. Unbeatable in the court of law.

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 30 points 8 months ago

I agree, except I think Israel is the one to both start and end this.
I burnt down your house and killed your family, but because you shot me in the foot, I'll burn down your neighborhood and kill your entire extended family.

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[-] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 8 months ago

People see will see these numbers and still argue "they are showing restraint, if Israel was really evil they would just carpet bomb them all." Like what the fuck is this then?

[-] snek@lemmy.world 20 points 8 months ago

This excuse of "how is it genocide if there are still Palestinians alive? huh?" is such bullshit. Yes, let's wait for Israel to kill the very last Palestinian before we can bring out our memorials and cry over the genocide.

[-] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 8 months ago

"The Nazis are killing Jews? Why would they put them on train cars then and have them work? Wouldn't they just shoot them or bomb them right there? I don't think it's really as big a deal as it seems." -American in 1940

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[-] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 29 points 8 months ago

Israel is the terrorist.

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[-] cunning_bolt@lemmy.world 26 points 8 months ago

This is how you ensure there's another generation of radicalized individuals to have to combat.

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[-] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 24 points 8 months ago

But mentioning it makes you an antisemite, the ADL told me so!

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[-] shatal@lemmy.world 19 points 8 months ago

To make it perfectly clear - the fact that children are dying is reprehensible and it should be stopped. Even if one innocent child died, from both sides, it's one too many.

That being said, this is a very good example of propaganda by partial information and numbers manipulations.

The UN report in question identifies anyone under the age of 18 as a child. The Al-Qassam brigades recruit teens from the age of 16 to active combative roles (some reports suggest an even younger age).

It's impossible to know how many of these 3,257 children are actually children and how many are armed teens, and the UN report references that. The propaganda completely ignores this part and reframes this information as if more than 3,000 young and innocent children were slain.

[-] TinyPizza@kbin.social 24 points 8 months ago

A worldwide charity that's existed for 100 years, whose exclusive mission is trying to save children from war, is a very good example of propaganda? Please explain this, because you say that one is too many but then you say "don't fall for this guys, it's not nearly that many."
Are you saying it's ok to murder minors because they're armed? Are you saying that's why these minors were murdered? Do you have proof of this? Because your statements seem to be the ones which are unfounded and sound a lot like propaganda to excuse the murder of thousands of children.

[-] SoleInvictus@lemmy.world 24 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

A common tactic by propagandists is to call inconvenient information propaganda. It's like how fascists tend to blame their opponents for engaging in behavior that only the fascists are actually engaging in.

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[-] snek@lemmy.world 17 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

It’s impossible to know how many of these 3,257 children are actually children and how many are armed teens,

And if they were armed teens, should we kill them? The ministry of health published the numbers. You can choose whatever age you deem acceptable for the Qassam Brigades and do some math to get the "real" number of children victims, if you like.

It’s impossible to know how many of these 3,257 children are actually children and how many are armed teens,

All of them are fucking children. Everyone under 18 is a child. Stop this bullshit.

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[-] Aleric@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago

The propaganda completely ignores this part and reframes this information as if more than 3,000 young and innocent children were slain.

The only thing that's really propaganda here is your comment. A child conscripted to fight in a war is still a child, and no amount of pretending otherwise by propagandists like yourself will change that fact.

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[-] TryingToEscapeTarkov@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

"Not only is the child murder bad! It's the worst it's been since like 2019." -the news.

[-] clot27@lemm.ee 9 points 8 months ago

I can just pray that war stops asap, cant see innocents dying...

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