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[–] aluminium@lemmy.world 85 points 11 months ago (12 children)

No bro, Xbox isn't evil anymore. Phil Spencer is a good guy and Gamepass is the "best deal in gaming"./s

On serious note there is some legit reason to do something like this. Things like the Cronos Max or Rapid fire controllers are a legit problem in multiplayer games because they are hardware cheats essentially.

But they could have created an API that allows games to check if a unoffical device is detected if that is the reason.

[–] AProfessional@lemmy.world 64 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

From the article

The problem seems to revolve around brands that haven't acquired this licensing

It seems to just be rent seeking? Since it’s retroactive there probably isn’t a security change and malicious hardware can spoof being licensed, though this is unclear. So it probably only hurts legitimate small brands.

[–] aluminium@lemmy.world 26 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah its probably rent seeking, I was just pointing out there are legit reasons to ban certain hardware.

[–] Deestan@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I get your argument, but I'd say it makes room for a legit reason to control and identify hardware, not ban it.

[–] aluminium@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

absolutely, hence why I put forward the idea of an API that would allow games to stop people from joining multiplayer matches or flag their highscores if sketchy hardware is involved! For Single Player games, who cares!

But deep down we all know that this first and formost is a money grabbing scheme from micro$oft

[–] pory@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

So use a tool like this for call of duty multiplayer lobbies, not globally. Who cares if people "cheat" in single player games?

[–] Sethayy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago

As an avid modder I can tell you that'll make it harder but not impossible, I was halfway to hotwiring an xbox controller so I could run my xbox over parsec

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[–] echo64@lemmy.world 72 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I didn't have Controller DRM on my 2023 bingo

[–] ATDA@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

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[–] Wilibus@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

I had DRM on my coffee pot on my 2017 bingo card.

[–] Aielman15@lemmy.world 66 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (13 children)

Let's add this to the list of shitty anti-consumer choices that big tech corporations have implemented this year.

IIRC Microsoft still hasn't reverted on their asinine choice of locking their console players into their overpriced branded SSDs.

[–] Waluigis_Talking_Buttplug@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Wait, you can't buy regular drives anymore? That's actually kind of fucked

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[–] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

Their SSD prices dropped significantly this past year when they allowed another company to start making them. But it's still nowhere near as cheap as PS5's SSD expansion which isn't proprietary at all.

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[–] dhtseany@lemmy.ml 51 points 11 months ago (3 children)

All of the selfish things I'm learning from the comments in this thread about what Microsoft has been doing with their console such as banning aftermarket tech like controllers or generic SSDs is why I finally quit buying consoles entirely years ago and why I stopped paying for Xbox live. Enshitification is a real thing, my dudes.

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 8 points 11 months ago

I‘m very happy with the steam tv link app. It works great and you have a lot more games to choose from afaik.

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[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 32 points 11 months ago (1 children)

In ten years, the only place you'll be able to truly own what you buy and play how you want is on Linux from Itch.io. These fools are salting the earth they grow their crops in.

[–] HKayn@dormi.zone 24 points 11 months ago (2 children)

And here I thought there wasn't a way to shoehorn Linux into this thread.

itch.io deserves the shout-out though

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

Not much of a shoehorn when we're speaking of the spawn of the eldritch god Microsoft. The article is even about unthinking destruction.

[–] Mojojojo1993@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

So how does it work ?

You need a rig to play indie games ?

[–] antoniodelavega@jlai.lu 19 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Is there literally anything that is safe from DRMs ?

[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] antoniodelavega@jlai.lu 4 points 11 months ago

Until hardware manufacturers/websites refuse Linux computers thanks to remote attestation

[–] Mojojojo1993@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

Fuck Microsoft. Move away from consoles.

[–] stopthatgirl7@kbin.social 11 points 11 months ago
[–] TryingToEscapeTarkov@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

Madcatz "Nooooooooooo!!!!"

[–] Melonpoly@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I thought Phil Spencer was a wholesome gamer? /s

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

More Apple by Microsoft.

[–] lorez@lemm.ee 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I had the double tap issue with the official Xbox series X controller on PC. On Steam, on Game Pass, everywhere. And I was playing Persona 5 Royal at the time so it skipped dialogue. I returned it to Amazon and got a Dualsense. No issue whatsoever. Can't even make a damn controller...

[–] Romkslrqusz@lemm.ee 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

“I got one lemon from one brand once and swore off the entire brand”

[–] lorez@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It's a known issue. Not a one unit problem. Just search A button double press.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

They're gonna get slapped with a law suit o er this.

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