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Summary

Former vice presidential nominee Tim Walz criticized Trump for economic chaos while taking personal responsibility for the situation during an MSNBC interview.

"We wouldn't be in this mess if we'd have won the election — and we didn't," Walz told Chris Hayes. He called Trump the "worst possible business executive" and praised the Wall Street Journal's editorial criticizing Trump's tariff war.

Walz emphasized Democrats must offer something better, not just criticize Trump. Recently, he acknowledged a leadership void in the Democratic Party and admitted spending too much time combatting Trump's false claims about immigrants.

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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 46 points 1 day ago (4 children)

DNCs fault for blocking Bernie

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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago (19 children)

The voters deserve a lot of blame here.

You can lead a horse to water....

Any ADULT can easily see that politicians are going to be imperfect, and no single candidate is going to align 100% with your stance. Demanding that they do, or else you'll vote for literally the worst possible option, or sit out, or vote a "protest" vote, all so that someone, somewhere will "learn" something is just fucking childish and stupid. And this will be continue to be true no matter how many times the Tone Police show up to admonish people about blaming voters. Sorry, not sorry: I blame the voters.

[–] Kayday@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I agree, I'm also happy that people like Walz seem to want to give people a better option, making a protest vote even less appealing.

[–] ClassStruggle@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Harris could have aligned with 99% of what I wanted, but that 1% was OK with genocide, and that should have been a red line for anyone.

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[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 7 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Nobody demanded that Harris align 100% with their stance; they demanded that she not be an absolute pile of shit of a candidate. That distinction matters.

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[–] lordkekz@discuss.tchncs.de 102 points 1 day ago (36 children)

Turns out holding back the things that work (like calling fascists "weird") while not breaking with some of Biden's unpopular policies was a terrible idea... who would've thought? At least Walz is honest enough to admit it. I doubt the DNC will let the social democrats like Walz or Bernie take the lead though... establishment dems would rather stand by and praise Reagan while Trump dismantles the constitution.

[–] nfreak@lemmy.world 47 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

The DNC is a right-wing party and frankly benefits from the current fascist oligarchy too. They still get their bribes from corporate lobbyists all the same. VERY few representatives actually lean left and fight for us - hell, even Sanders, Walz, and AOC are centrists at best and routinely fall in line with the establishment.

2024 was no different than 2016. They didn't listen to their voting base whatsoever because they'd rather have a fascist in charge than give any credence at all to leftist policies, even if it costs them an election. Just look at some of the info coming out about Harris's campaign, where campaign workers were instructed to consider anyone asking about Gaza as a lost cause and not bother trying to earn their vote.

The whole party is rotten to the core and needs to be completely dismantled and replaced with an actual far left worker's party. As it stands right now, the DNC is essentially just a controlled opposition party, even if it's not entirely intended to be one.

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[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (11 children)

Instead of frittering away the last few months of his presidential term, Biden should have just resigned and allowed Harris to take over his role. She could have pivoted way to the left without having to undermine Biden's agenda and that would have really sent a clearer message to the democratic base.

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[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 16 points 1 day ago

I already had some respect for Walz, and it has now grown by leaps and bounds. While much of the messaging from the democrats seems to contain some level of voter or constituent blaming, Walz is out there taking responsibility.

[–] oakey66@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago (10 children)

Meanwhile Democrats are lining up Rham Emanuel and Gavin Newsom to run. Lol

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[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 38 points 1 day ago (4 children)

It wasn’t really Tim’s fault. I will never understand why Kamala decided it was more important to try to court Republicans than get Democrats excited. Democrats, and I know this will be a big surprise to Democratic leadership, don’t want to vote for conservatives.

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