Political Memes

We give a lot of chances to vote in the US. Mail in ballots, early voting, polling places open late. Discounting the tiny group of people who do not have and cannot get proper ID, and the tiny group of totally disabled people with no support system whatsoever, everyone should be able to figure out getting their vote in.

That leaves the people who don’t want to vote. But there is no way around the fact that being unforgivably stupid. Does your vote really matter in our crushingly ineffectual two-party system? Not as much as I would like. But there is an obvious choice between a party intent on dismantling the very foundation of the nation, and one simply content to let it fall apart. Voting for the former assures destruction, voting for the latter gives us time. Voting for neither, is moronic.

My point - Do we think that forcing this group of lazy and/or idiotic Americans to vote would add anything valuable to the political process?

Education is where positive political participation begins. Until we fix that and stop actively making it worse, there is no election reform solution to the festering rot of ignorance and apathy.

Misogyny is part of it.

Historically when people vote in higher numbers we end up with Democratic Presidents.

Harris isn't claiming a mandate.

Winning by less than 1% is not decisive.

Did you somehow miss that the meme is about the people who chose to vote for a third party, or not at all?

I mean no

In an election between Bush and Kerry (the guy who lost 2004 election) or something like that then yes. People can be annoyed or just too busy to vote.

This election was perfectly clear that the future of US democracy was at stake and more than 1/3 of the voters decided to not show up. They decided that they were fine not choosing and as such fine with either option. I mean even if the choice was between Trump and a dog, the dog should have won by a landslide. 4 years of nothing would have been miles better than the decades that US is going back.

This presidency is already catastrophic and it barely even started.

I don’t even know how the US and the world can handle 4 years of this shit at this pace.

If only things were that simple. Humans love to focus on just one reason, but when dealing with a population of voters you have to use statistics to understand anything about whats going on. I'm sure sexism was a factor but theres so much more than that.

While your logic does have a point, and there's no shortage of sexists out there, I must also state that both Clinton and Harris were horrid candidates as well, and both followed a democrat president the people were starting to/were done with.

Not only that, but both times Trump preyed on what the people were desperate to hear: "Better living conditions, lower prices" and all that. This was mainly the illusion of choice between two evils, and they chose the one that seemed to be the lesser one. The one who appeared to be "more honest" and despite being a nepo-baby called out and criticized all other rich people.

The issue is the system itself, and the fact that voters choose their candidates like celebrities or their sports team. See Harris making her campaign way more about celebrity endorsement than commiting to actual societal issues. She was never gonna win like that, and even if she did, she would still be a bad president. Not worse for sure, now that we all are seeing current Trump starting all sorts of conflicts and trying to become a dictator, but still a bad president.

The US can elect a female president. But so far the options picked for that were absolutely horrid, and I know there's several good and competent female leaders who are both democrats and republicans. Sadly they have too much common sense or lean too much to the centre to be taken seriously by the ones who want to create a spectacle.

Correlation is not causation. We elected Obama who was one of the youngest presidents in US history first term. Also he was Black. I'm not saying the country is sexist, but I am saying both the female candidates that made it the general election, ran on dog shit platforms of "more of the same"

Basically if Tim Walz was the presidential candidate he probably would have won.

Guess why some of these people didn't even bother to vote.

Was there not redistricting and voters removed from voter lists in higher numbers this time around?

E: not trying to be a dick, genuinely that was my understanding

While I'm sure that was part of it, a lot of people didn't vote for other reasons as well. Someone I know who you would probably consider "left" didn't vote at all because of Harris supporting Israel (I'm aware trump is worse for Palestinians), and I know a bunch of other people I've spoken to online also didn't vote at all for the same reason.

Plus I suspect a lot of other previous Biden voters didn't vote at all for similar reasons, like possibly all party's are owned by the rich.

Bottom line, a class war is needed to get the rich in check.