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The letter posted on Israeli journalist Amit Segal channel to 184,000 followers says that "the nation of Israel will stand up bravery to strike at its enemies," according to a translation of the Hebrew. It goes on to justify targeting sites even "when the enemy hides behind a human shield."

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[–] hogunner@lemmy.world 125 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Fuck anyone who uses religion to excuse murder. The world would be a better place without your “gods”.

[–] Skies5394@lemmy.ml 27 points 11 months ago (2 children)

As Ricky Gervais said, (paraphrasing) do Abrahamic religions believe in any of the hundreds of gods before their one god? Well I don’t believe in just one more.

[–] hogunner@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago
[–] filister@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

This comedian is a pretty smart and well spoken fellow

[–] guacupado@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Prejudiced murder is about the only thing religion is good for.

[–] Nomad@infosec.pub 2 points 11 months ago

That and controling gullible people.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 70 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

It's important to acknowledge that these rabbis are fucking assholes and also that quite a few rabbis didn't sign this letter (it was signed by dozens of rabbis, which isn't a very large proportion). Religious leaders are people just like the rest of us and while they usually contain a larger proportion of empathic and "good" people... that certainly isn't a universal rule (Source: grew up in Boston in the 90s).

I hope their congregations see them for the assholes they are and kick them to the fucking curb.

[–] TheBananaKing@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago

Quite a lot of palestinians aren't murderous terrorists either, but somehow they're getting bombed regardless.

[–] filister@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

Yes, I read a report of a rabbi asking Biden for a ceasefire. This only comes to prove that we should try not to generalise people and that there are rotten apples in every nation!

[–] atk007@lemmy.world 45 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Israel hates hospitals and wants to bomb them. US supports Israel because fuck healthcare.

[–] Riccosuave@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago

Healthcare infrastructure is clearly where all the socialists and dope smokers are hanging out.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 11 months ago (2 children)

That's not very pious of them.

[–] TinyPizza@kbin.social 21 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Sometimes a pat on the back from god is all you need to keep committing war crimes. Chosen people choosing people.

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Half of the Old Testament is just the ancient Israelites going around and committing war crimes. Numbers and Joshua are particularly bad. Like the battle of Jericho, where they killed every human, ox, sheep, and donkey in the city and then wrote a kid's song about it

[–] lettruthout@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Chosen people choosing people.

...to kill.
Why is the US supporting a country that's fighting a religious war?

I don't care what people believe but when they implement those beliefs to harm others, that's wrong.

[–] Riccosuave@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I don't care what people believe

I used to take this stance too, but then I heard Matt Dillahunty say something that really stuck with me (paraphrasing here):

Beliefs matter because it is the beliefs that inform our actions, and it is our actions that shape the world we all have to live within.

Once I heard that I decided I was no longer just an atheist, but was profoundly ANTI-theist. There is absolutely no chance that there can be broad adoption of a secular humanist social philosophy as long as there is political control being asserted via religious institutions.

It will never happen, full stop. Anyone who says otherwise is lying to themselves, and either unintentionally enabling or directly supporting the continued mass delusions of large swaths of the human population. It is imperative that this not be allowed to continue for the survival of our species. It is that fucking serious in my opinion.

[–] snooggums@kbin.social 5 points 11 months ago

Why is the US supporting a country that’s fighting a religious war?

Continuing national traditions!

[–] iAmTheTot@kbin.social 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Actually, it's probably quite pious of them. Old Testament God was not really one for mercy and was pretty big on obliterating your foes.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

There's a part in there about a king asking someone to bring him 400 or some foreskins to prove he was a mighty warrior.

Like just straight up "go kill hundreds of non Jewish people and chop off the tip of their dicks as a flex".

Every single Abrahmic religion started out as a violent cult that wanted to extreminate everyone else one, and every one of those religions still have right wing extremists that think those were the good ole days. And they all want to say criticizing their lust for violence is bigotry against all of their religion

[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 1 points 11 months ago

Does god create multiple religion to look at us fight?

[–] charonn0@startrek.website 24 points 11 months ago

Proof once again that church and state should be kept far, far away from one another.

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago

The Onion writers have given up and are applying for fast food jobs.

[–] spittingimage@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Assholes. Hope their beards get caught in their zippers.

[–] filister@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

This made me smile, well done, mate!

[–] Wrench@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago

Newsweek is getting to the front page way too fucking much. And the community is eating it up like it's a reliable source.

[–] febra@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Another religion of peace. Judaism. Why are all abrahamic religions such a scourge on this planet?

[–] atk007@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Well dharmic religions aren't peachy either. Have you seen what Buddhists are doing to Rohingya in Myanmar? They just lack Israel's military might but they are on par in terms of brutality.

[–] kmaismith@lemm.ee 5 points 11 months ago

As i understood it from the reading of the bible, the god of Moses and Abraham is kind of a violent prick, this is all well in alignment with biblical old testament god; just lay waste to anyone who has slighted Yahweh's chosen people. To answer somewhat literally: To be disgusted by this you must first reject that narrative which is currently taught as foundational to the bible

[–] carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

And if you don’t support it, you’re an antisemite apparently.

[–] argo_yamato@lemm.ee 8 points 11 months ago

That is really messed up

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

These motherfuckers have watched Speed too many times.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 5 points 11 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


An Israeli journalist has shared a letter he says has been signed by dozens of rabbis which states there would be no religious prohibition for Israel's forces to strike a hospital that contained "the enemy."

The missive, posted on Monday on the Telegram channel of prominent media figure Amit Segal, is addressed to Israeli Prime Minister Benyamin Netanyahu and mentions by name the Al-Shifa hospital in Gaza City which is the strip's largest medical complex.

Israel has sent its forces into Hamas-controlled Gaza following weeks of air and artillery strikes and has vowed to wipe out Hamas amid a growing civilian death toll and desperate humanitarian crisis as food, fuel, drinking water and medicine run short.

Israel has said that key Hamas operations are taking place within underground tunnels below Al-Shifa, Gaza's largest hospital, as well as Al-Quds, which has been explicitly ordered several times to evacuate.

But the World Health Organization Director General Dr. Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus has said that under international humanitarian law, "healthcare must always be protected," as he urged Israel to rescind its evacuation order against Al-Quds Hospital.

Mads Gilbert, a Norwegian doctor, told the outlet Democracy Now in an article published on Monday that in the 16 years he had worked on and off at Al-Shifa hospital, he had seen no evidence that it was a Hamas command center.


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