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[–] PunkRockSportsFan@fanaticus.social 18 points 5 days ago (5 children)

Religion is for three kinds of people:

Fools

Liars

Disobedient children with fools or liars as parents

Tolerance of religion is a paradox as every religion is intolerant of other religions.

Yes Buddhism too.

Respect is earned. Trust is earned.

Religion deserves neither.

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If your religion is somehow linked to the place you were born it's not your religion. You are indoctrinated.

[–] witx@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 5 days ago
[–] mrodri89@lemmy.zip 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

If I were to guess why its probably because religious communities always tend to lean into hateful rhetoric against "others".

People realize the closer you are to religion the further from God you feel as you couldn't believe that judgement of other humans is wise from an all knowing being if it exists.

Then the internet of course gives so many alternate sane opinions for consumption and exposure readily at your fingertips.

[–] quack@lemmy.zip 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Ex-Roman Catholic here. I was never particularly devout but this is what drove me away from the church once and for all. I have never seen people preach about God’s love with so much hate in their hearts.

[–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago

"Donald Trump was sent by God to stop abortions"

Is when I realized, yes, I do actually hate organized religion.

[–] BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Religion has nothing to do with God, even if you believed God exists, then since God is omnipresent you can have a relationship with God from anywhere. Why would you need to gather with a group of people and have middle men priest who claim to speak on behalf of God. Religions are about power, control, elitism and us vs them tribalism. If there was a god, he'd be disgusted by the barbaric things done by religious people in his name.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 3 points 5 days ago

Religion is not necessarily the same as religious institutions. Christianity is quite an outlier with its heavy centralization in the case of Catholicism, but there is many denominations of Christianity that are not adhering to a centralized institution.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

It doesn't necessarily mean they become atheists; some switch religions. While in the West religion is in overall decline, in the global south, Christian evangelicals are on the rise. This is especially the case in Brazil where Catholicism is on decline but evangelicals are growing.

[–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago

If I changed Jesus name to Bob and worshipped Bob in the exact same way id be called insane.

[–] Wanpieserino@lemm.ee 6 points 6 days ago

If counting Christianity then it will be a lot higher. I'm baptised and stuff like that, but that was just tradition. I never believed in a god.

[–] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Most people have already left, they just don't realise. If you don't go to church or mosque (probably not Buddhism or Hinduism) you already essentially betrayed the values you once were told to hold, but people are scared to admit because of metaphysical punishments in the afterlife

If not that, then public repercussions prevent them from admitting, and what once held the place of religion in communities is quickly being replaced with ideology instead, it provides community, tenets to follow, laws to abide by, and gives purpose for those who lack it

This started way in the past, and Russia would have likely also been more atheist than orthodox if the USSR didn't turn priests into martyrs by forcing a non religious status quo onto everyone and becoming a dictatorial tyrant with so called dictatorship of the "proletariat" which usually only turns into a dictatorship where only bureaucrats and party members exist in.

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Honor killings still occur in many religious countries or in migrant families from those countries so yeah people are afraid to admit that they don’t believe.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, probably not enough of the to create real change though.

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[–] sunflowercowboy@feddit.org 4 points 6 days ago

I lately have started making my own ideas of systems for my kids. My name is just a bit spooky when handling religious topics.

[–] rosco385@lemm.ee 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Monotheism was a mistake! The last save point was hermeticism, it's going to take us ages to get to the enlightenment again. 😮‍💨

[–] galanthus@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Excuse me, is hermeticism not a monotheistic philosophy?

[–] rosco385@lemm.ee 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Nope, technically it's henotheistic. Hermeticism doesn't deny the existence of others gods, but does believe in one supreme God.

https://arnemancy.com/articles/hermeticism/monotheism-in-hermetism/

[–] galanthus@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

Well, during the enlightenment it existed in a Christian context. I do not see how one can disavow monotheism and accept hermericism, since other gods in it are hardly important to say the least.

[–] answersplease77@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You only see two types of people who believe in religon:

1- Bad people who abuse it for evil to benefit in life: Such political indoctrination and control, pedo cults, Israel zionists, ISIS Islamsits ..etc.

2- Oppressed and poor people who use it as a coping and hope mechanim for the afterlife: This applies globally across all religons and continents from South America to East Asia.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Mixing bigotry against religious people with classism and a sprinkle of racism does not make it rational. There is plenty of religious people who are neither oppressed or poor, nor do they use their religion for oppression of other people.

[–] answersplease77@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

I didn't downvote neither upvote your comment because I kind of agree with you.

IMO, I feel those people are on auto-pilot faith which they inherted from their parents, but also because it has a positive presence in their lives. However, unlike people who endure jail or injustice, or oppression or poverty who need faith to survive life. just my personal view point

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